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Old 11-10-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default good spot for to crai with a good draw on turn?

UTg is 10/10 over not few dozen hands
Btn is 50/11/1.8 and is a bad player very loose

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Hero (BB): $100
UTG: $102.05
CO: $37.95
BTN: $93.85
SB: $162.70

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $4, SB folds, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($12.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $9</font>, BTN calls $9, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($39.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $13</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $87 and is All-In</font>,
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: good spot for to crai with a good draw on turn?

yup, nh
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: good spot for to crai with a good draw on turn?

I love it.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: good spot for to crai with a good draw on turn?

I would love it if button wasn't "a bad player... very loose". You have odds, he's calling a lot of the time, and if you hit he'll call more. The only way calling is worst then folding is if UTG has something that he's pushing over a call, but he would be folding to a raise, like AT. But I don't see that happening much. We have little fold equity, and a strong draw, and odds. Lets just draw.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: good spot for to crai with a good draw on turn?

The reason I made that play is that i figured my fold equity was big as the lose villain will have a lot of weak hands in that spot which he will not call the shove with.

If he has a good hand here he would have a hard tiem folding it, but i just dont see him havign a good hand often there
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: good spot for to crai with a good draw on turn?

Um. Pretty standard turn call. We're getting beautiful odds. With read we'll be able to extract quite a bit with a river bet or raise, but he might be calling here with T9o against which we're an underdog. Furthermore, he can fold a [censored] hand to this, but he'll have a harder time letting go of it on the riv after he potentially puts more money in. I really hate this.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: good spot for to crai with a good draw on turn?

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I would love it if button wasn't "a bad player... very loose". You have odds, he's calling a lot of the time, and if you hit he'll call more. The only way calling is worst then folding is if UTG has something that he's pushing over a call, but he would be folding to a raise, like AT. But I don't see that happening much. We have little fold equity, and a strong draw, and odds. Lets just draw.

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I agree, if we expect UTG to fold we need BTN to fold about 40% of the time for the push to be profitable. Why not draw with good odds?
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