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#22
11-14-2007, 11:15 PM
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Re: Pokerstars $27 9-handed: strange BB call by a regular
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[ QUOTE ] Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1220</font>, BB calls t1020. [/ QUOTE ] The J7s call is perfectly fine if OP is pushing ATC (which itself is "incorrect"). Given the second hand posted by OP (quoted), it's not clear that villain is necessarily wrong in assuming OP is shoving too wide. Likewise, shoving K5o is wrong if OP thinks villain thinks OP is shoving ATC and calls appropriately. [/ QUOTE ] I don't shove any 2 in that position, but i MIX play. I can do that shove about 20-30% of times. People playing me know I'm no iper-aggressive, my attempt to steal overall is 21%, many regulars are at 30-40%... It seems ok with sngowizard post-game analysis. I play with pokertracker/pokerace and usually know who I'm shoving or calling. But, if I don't do this kind of mix, I should become a open book and it should not be good... Doing these considerations I can't understand how good is the call. 
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#23
11-15-2007, 10:59 AM
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Re: Pokerstars $27 9-handed: strange BB call by a regular
When you get caught pushing 62o you're going to have a note saying pushes ATCs and it will be really hard to change that. Your opponents will call you lighter than they should unless they figure out that you've tightened up.
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#24
11-15-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Pokerstars $27 9-handed: strange BB call by a regular
big stack on villains blind, short stack to villains left (which means songheje will be shoving wide from his button through the 2 shorter stacks in near future), song should be shoving very wide here, the J7 is soooted. snap call.
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#25
11-15-2007, 06:05 PM
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Re: Pokerstars $27 9-handed: strange BB call by a regular
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He is making the same mistake that I make constantly. Thinking that the regulars actually know what they are doing but most do not push any 2. If you were 100% here then J7S is a good call. [/ QUOTE ] This is the best answer here. The problem is you're both operating on bad assumptions. He's now got you spooked, so you don't raise any two in this spot when you almost certainly should. He's more concerned with making the bad-ass spite call even though he should know that you're not ATC here, given your significant history together. This is kind of his thing (spite-calling regs), so if you don't like it, you should probably avoid him...it's -EV for both of you at this level.
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