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Old 10-04-2007, 12:37 AM
hoyasnaxa hoyasnaxa is offline
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Default NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

Guy has been solid, I have been raising a lot too. I thought he had a flush draw the whole time, and now I am confused.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (CO): $127.20
BTN: $60.35
SB: $45.70
BB: $70
UTG: $64.75

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($1.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $4.75

Turn: ($14.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13</font>, UTG calls $13

River: ($40.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $45 and is All-In</font>, Hero???
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:47 AM
doppelganger doppelganger is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

Blech that's weird. If he's really solid then the only hand that remotely makes sense is 22, but why would a solid player play it this way with the draws present?

I guess he could have something like AK waiting to see if the FD hit, but whatever it is I'd say he played it poorly.

I think I find a call just because his line makes no sense at all to me.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

yeah - that's just a weird line - i'm gonna have to call that.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

I can't put this guy on a hand here.. If he has a set of 2's wouldn't he want to protect his hand against all the draws? You said this guy has been solid, but maybe he limped with a hand like 3d4d,5d6d, Ad10d, QdJd, Jd10d. From his viewpoint you have been raising alot and maybe he is just trying to get you to fold a weak queen. I think this is a call.

However, I think the key problem with this hand is the lack of a pre-flop raise from you. The hand would have played out completely different if you would have stuck in a raise pre-flop. The post-flop decisions would have been easier to make.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:58 AM
hoyasnaxa hoyasnaxa is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

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I can't put this guy on a hand here.. If he has a set of 2's wouldn't he want to protect his hand against all the draws? You said this guy has been solid, but maybe he limped with a hand like 3d4d,5d6d, Ad10d, QdJd, Jd10d. From his viewpoint you have been raising alot and maybe he is just trying to get you to fold a weak queen. I think this is a call.

However, I think the key problem with this hand is the lack of a pre-flop raise from you. The hand would have played out completely different if you would have stuck in a raise pre-flop. The post-flop decisions would have been easier to make.

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I completely agree, I have no idea why I didnt raise this, and your read is spot on my friend. I am very impressed. I called, and he showed 3d4d.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

thank you
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

That's one of the weirdest things I think I've ever seen from someone "solid."

I'm going to go with call it, too. If he shows you the 34dd/AA/22, you're going to have to change your read...

Oh, raise pf please.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

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guy is solid

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limped 3d4d UTG

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[x] New note needed for villain

Oh, and PF, RAISE THAT [censored] UP! [/tien]
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:10 AM
hoyasnaxa hoyasnaxa is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

I actually really like his play on the river, pushing makes it seem like he missed. I obviously dont think he has a set, and wasnt even thinking about 34. Raise preflop and this doesnt happen though. Bad hand me.
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - KQ, flop top two, huge river bet

Weeeird. I call.


And raise pre-flop. That limp is gross.
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