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Old 03-03-2007, 02:21 PM
Scarmiglio Scarmiglio is offline
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Default Live 4/8 AJs OTB

Villain just sat down so no reads other than he's a mid 40's Armenian.

Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the Button. 4 players limp, Hero raises, SB fold and BB calls.

6 to the flop for 12sb
Flop is K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Checked to Hero who bets. BB calls, Villain in MP calls, everyone else folds.

3 to the turn for 7.5bb
Turn is K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], BB checks, <font color="red">Villain bets</font>, Hero thinks for a minute and folds.

Standard?
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Old 03-03-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

You would think that attempting a c/r would be a better play if he actually had a king. Even though, this is 4/8 live and from my limited experience you made the correct fold because you are usually drawing dead vs. the typical player.
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Old 03-03-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

A raise for a free showdown might work here. 4/8 donks love to bet scare cards or flush draws. Not sure if its much better than folding.
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

Standard. In general I believe he's donking trips.

If he bets at other scare cards in the future, make a note of it. For now, fold.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

I'm raising here, and that's the last money I'm putting in the pot
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

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I'm raising here, and that's the last money I'm putting in the pot

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Interesting...
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

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I'm raising here, and that's the last money I'm putting in the pot

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Interesting...

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what is so interesting?

If he has a K, he is going to c/r. When he bets, I feel like I have the nuts, so I'm raising to charge him to draw, and charge draws behind me.

If he calls, he probably has a K, or a draw, so if a draw misses, no reason to bet the river.
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

I am with TheHip.
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

8.5bb in the pot. the turn is a scare card that also brings to the texture on the board another flush draw which increases the range of possible semibluffing hands.

mainly though, since he's armenian i think it's a pretty good spot to raise for a FSD. if we get 3bet we are toasted oats. usually what we manage to do is get HU, having the best hand plenty often enough to showdown for 2bb UI.
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Old 03-04-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 AJs OTB

TheHip has the right idea. He was bluffing with a heart draw and missed on the river. The other player had the other AJ and won the pot. Had I raised the other player almost certainly would have folded. I noted it for the future against this type of player, but it threw me for a loop at the time.
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