200nl: KK - is he trying to stack-a-donk?

igetjokes · #1 07-30-2007, 04:28 AM

Villain is 35/8/1.6, standard Party fish. His weak flop lead/call then turn check makes me feel he's trying to stack a donk (CRAI turn, usually with set).

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saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($281.09)
Button ($507.20)
SB ($215.75)
BB ($72.50)
UTG ($533.10)
MP ($180.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, MP calls $7.

Flop: ($21) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets $8, Hero raises to $33, MP calls $25.

Turn: ($87) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($87) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP calls $180.55 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $267.55

If I was deeper I could bet/fold turn, but stacks are short enough on turn that a bet basically prices me in to call a shove as either a CRAI turn or open shove on river.

Comments on all streets please, I'd like to hear some alternate lines etc too.

Casper05 · #2 07-30-2007, 04:42 AM

Did you notice you have KK?

bet/call the turn and smile...but most of the time he will call and then value stack himself with J8.

Vavavoom · #3 07-30-2007, 04:44 AM

Bet turn pls...

You want to be getting it in

GSykes · #4 07-30-2007, 04:44 AM

AJss just missed hes bluffing YO!

cityburke · #5 07-30-2007, 05:48 AM

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Did you notice you have KK?

bet/call the turn and smile...but most of the time he will call and then value stack himself with J8.

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Most people who donk flops with sets will shove over the flop raise. Having said that I think he turned or rivered a set.

RocktheCasbah · #6 07-30-2007, 06:27 AM

By checking turn you look really weak, which leaves you in a tough river spot. So bet on the turn - if you get check-raised you are in a better position to fold/call

zaephyr · #7 07-30-2007, 06:46 AM

Your line looks like air/flush draw here.

bi11 frist · #8 07-30-2007, 07:38 AM

this guys pretty passive. i dont really think a fish is open shoving the river as a bluff or with anything you beat.

Bulletproof Monk · #9 07-30-2007, 08:23 AM

i bet the turn

preflop and flop are perfect