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Old 07-29-2007, 05:09 PM
uminchu uminchu is offline
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Default Turning 88 into AQ?

havent busted this trick out in a while cuz it always burns me cuz they show up with AK or some rubbish, but still i think this play is good occasionally against a tight player who can lay down TT QQ and KK here to heat. Anyone like? This guy was pretty solid and reloaded whenever below 100

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($221.10)
Hero ($87.70)
Button ($116.05)
SB ($100)
BB ($99.50)
UTG ($110.20)
UTG+1 ($59.85)
MP1 ($43.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $7.

Flop: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: $45
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Turning 88 into AQ?

i dont like it if as u say he cant fold TTQQKK, im confused
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:18 PM
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i dont like it if as u say he cant fold TTQQKK, im confused

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oops sorry fixed that

i mean who can lay those hands down because they are scared of the ace and the heat from that big dollar number on the board
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:19 PM
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fullring goes in fullring
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Turning 88 into AQ?

fold preflop
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:37 PM
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fold preflop

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wow super nitty


and i ll totally post in full ring next time
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:11 PM
Spechel EDD Spechel EDD is offline
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fold preflop

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wtf? are you deliberately trolling bad advice?

uminchu: against a thinking player like this i like this play a lot. I'd rather raise to $32 to be able to push him off a jack/QQ/KK.
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Old 07-29-2007, 08:38 PM
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fold preflop

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wtf? are you deliberately trolling bad advice?

uminchu: against a thinking player like this i like this play a lot. I'd rather raise to $32 to be able to push him off a jack/QQ/KK.

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very nice advice thanks
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Turning 88 into AQ?

i actually kind of like the dollar amount. i dont see how raising to $32 (as opposed to $28) changes FE here. in fact, $28 seems to look a little more sneaky for some reason. to me the bet kind of announces "i know you have KK and i'm gonna value bet you to death because i have an ace." plus, $28 instead of $32 saves you $4 if he pushes over the top of you. i dont see how you can call if he shoves on you here.
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:45 PM
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i actually kind of like the dollar amount. i dont see how raising to $32 (as opposed to $28) changes FE here. in fact, $28 seems to look a little more sneaky for some reason. to me the bet kind of announces "i know you have KK and i'm gonna value bet you to death because i have an ace." plus, $28 instead of $32 saves you $4 if he pushes over the top of you. i dont see how you can call if he shoves on you here.

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well you dont want him to keep calling and having you force yourself into betting the turn and river as a bluff now do you?

i personally feel that you betting the $32, rather than the $28 amount, would be more intimidating to the villin. even that small little increase of $4 it looks much bigger than it really is. its practically the same reason stores try to price something as $1.99/$2.99/$3.99 etc etc; it makes it look cheaper than it really is.
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