jj vs overbetshove flop

kura0 · #1 07-23-2007, 10:53 AM

villain is very laggy, i prolly should have pushed preflop

PartyPoker $400 NL Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
UTG ($553.90)
CO ($390.80)
BU ($911.40)
SB ($242.40)
BB ($317.90)
Hero ($421.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $16, Hero raises to $54, 4 folds, UTG raises to $160, Hero calls $106.

Flop: ($326) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $393.90 (all-in), Hero calls $261.4 (all-in).

Turn: ($981.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($981.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $981.30.

can i laydown JJ on this board?

FGators · #2 07-23-2007, 10:56 AM

I don't really see how this hand can play out much differently given your description. You are ahead a good percentage of the time and if you aren't you obviously have a nice little draw to work with or maybe even backdoor diamonds.

LucidDream · #3 07-23-2007, 10:59 AM

not after you just called a 4 bet pf and flopped an overpair.

push or fold pf after his 4 bet.

paulnic · #4 07-23-2007, 11:04 AM

i think u see a bigger overpair here quite often... once u have called pre u pretty much have to shove this flop tho...

tuckercat · #5 07-23-2007, 11:06 AM

given info on villain, your play looks fine to me, especially given this board. actually, i really like your call preflop too. i think more often than not, if you don't see overs on the flop, by just calling preflop, you will mostly certainly induce some kind of all in bluff by villain (as seen in this example). overall, i like your play. hope your hand held up.

zio_slim · #6 07-23-2007, 11:40 AM

obviously he had 99.

Otherwise this thread wouldn't have been created.

JooWish622 · #7 07-23-2007, 12:13 PM

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obviously he had 99.

Otherwise this thread wouldn't have been created.

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my bankroll that he didn't have 99.

myke11 · #8 07-23-2007, 12:39 PM

i think preflop youre only playing for set value. I doubt he shoves a worse hand on this flop

Patrio · #9 07-23-2007, 12:39 PM

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obviously he had 99.

Otherwise this thread wouldn't have been created.

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my bankroll that he didn't have 99.

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AK obv!