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Old 08-22-2006, 08:59 PM
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Default Well thats not what I expected you to do....

Villian is an unkown. I have only played a few orbits at the table and since my computer sux PAHUD takes forever to load so I have no stats and minimal read. What is my play on the river here?

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MP ($383.50)
Hero ($995)
SB ($2709.75)
BB ($1566.75)
UTG ($1072)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $30.

Flop: ($85) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $61.5</font>, BB calls $61.50.

Turn: ($208) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $208</font>, BB calls $208.

River: ($624) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $300</font>, Hero calls $300.

Final Pot: $1224
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Well thats not what I expected you to do....

fine
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:04 PM
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id push it
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:04 PM
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Well I was curious if there was any value at all to a push?
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:05 PM
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of course there's value to pushing. you have 2 pair. that's a good hand. he likely has 1 pair. he might call
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Well thats not what I expected you to do....

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of course there's value to pushing. you have 2 pair. that's a good hand. he likely has 1 pair. he might call

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Clearly. however will he call here often enough with a weaker hand or fold a better hand to justify pushing?
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:10 PM
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Meh, weird line for any one pair hands, I think he either has two pair, a set, 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], or air / missed draw. I suppose AK is not out of the question but it would be really bad if that's what he has. I don't see much value in raising.

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Old 08-22-2006, 09:12 PM
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of course there's value to pushing. you have 2 pair. that's a good hand. he likely has 1 pair. he might call

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Clearly. however will he call here often enough with a weaker hand or fold a better hand to justify pushing?

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He's going to be forced to call given that hero basically has a minraise left on the river. The only hands that fold are bluffs. I guess he can have a weird two pair. I don't see a lot of value in a shove vs. an unknown here, I think you'll see a set or KT fairly often.

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Old 08-22-2006, 09:25 PM
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[quote} I think you'll see a set or KT fairly often.


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My intial reaction as well. But...

Dont you think given the board you will hear from those hands before the river though?
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:26 PM
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