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Old 07-29-2007, 09:56 AM
agent_fish agent_fish is offline
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Default NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

It is my first hand at the table. I have no reads.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $12.65
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $7.85
MP: $9.05
CO: $10.30
BTN: $9.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.70</font>, MP calls $0.60, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.10</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.20</font>, Hero?
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

Call, i dont like a raise here, a raise would possibly fold out Ts and 33-99 and only suck in trips. I'd probably bet out on any turn, except maybe T. Show us the turn, please. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:47 AM
Rednas Rednas is offline
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

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Call, i dont like a raise here, a raise would possibly fold out Ts and 33-99 and only suck in trips. I'd probably bet out on any turn, except maybe T. Show us the turn, please. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Villain could also have a flush draw, so I am not sure to call or reraise.
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

I'd prefer to call and keep the pot small for now and as said, re-evaluate on turn.
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

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Show us the turn please.

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Looks like the concensus is to call and re-evaluate on the turn. I admittedly played this terribly. Feel free to tell me my mistakes and why, although I think I already know.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $12.65
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $7.85
MP: $9.05
CO: $10.30
BTN: $9.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.70</font>, MP calls $0.60, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.10</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.90</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $8.35</font>, Hero calls $3.45
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($18.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($18.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $18.30 ($0.90 Rake)

MP had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Deuces) and WON (+$8.35)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Deuces) and LOST (-$9.05)
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

Against an unknown at NL10, I'd prefer to shove it. Because:
- There aren't a lot of monsters out (only TT,22,AA,KK, all but TT not very likely)
- There are a lot of cards we would not like to see at the turn (any heart, any A,K,T), especially as we don't know what to do exactly against unkown
- An unknown NL10 player will call us here very wide, very often with any pair, any flushdraw, or even Ace-high, but a lot of scare cards can come on the turn that might him fold.
- Also, even if a blank comes, we don't wan't really to check and give a free card at the turn to villain.

So get the money in when we are most likely ahead and have the best chance of getting called.

(Of course, if villain is a solid player, calling might be the better option)
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

If we do call and a blank hits the turn, are we going to lead out? If so, how much? Are we bet/folding? This is assuming we don't know the results of the hand already.
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

On a blank turn id lead out, if he raises big, i'd get out.
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:39 AM
Sordini Sordini is offline
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

I have one question, The way the hand was played it seems like you are pot committed on the flop. Why not shove there and then so?

I agree with all of 'Kamel's' points. And thus I pose the question to the original poster
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: NL $10 QQ OOP Faces Flop Min-Raise

Be sure to put a note on him.
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