Playing at the same place you deal.

[bav]

This is a common problem with dealers playing in their own room. Most of them are very professional and behave well. But there is that fringe element who try to take advantage of their friendships and working relationships. Some of the worst-behaved players I've seen are dealers. A couple of the Wynn dealers fit into this category, doing the most outrageous things during hands that if any normal player did it would cause trouble (like reaching into main pot, grabbing the muck to see what someone folded, "helping" other players count their chips by reaching into the other players stacks, etc). And a while back I think psandman posted a tale of being outright cheated by a fellow dealer playing in psand's own room where the dealer knew he could get away with cheating a fellow dealer--nobody was gonna call the floor on him for it.

I agree with RR and Photoc that dealers playing in their own rooms MUST be held to at least the same standard as any other player. Doing otherwise creates a very bad image of the room. And in psand's example, I woulda fired that cheating dealer--you CANNOT let go the impression that the room allows their own dealers to cheat, even if they only cheat other dealers.

[Ramon Scott]

Pfap,

Here's a real downer...
One night recently, OTP dealers on swing shift end up eventually getting picked up to deal games... well, floor gets the order wrong and picks up a dealer with a better number and when she finds out that she was picked up incorrectly before some other dealer with a worse number, she claims the "D" word... Discrimination... even though it was just a screw up.

Well, after the room manager found out and so did the ACM, you can imagine the result... no more OTP's on ANY shift (I'm on days), and no more playing even off the clock in our room because of this action.

boooooooo!!!!

Needless to say, grave is taking a big hit on this and games are a bit slower to start on days... and tips are down slightly since there were several players that were always OTP until they got forced in.

[pokerswami]

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Some of the worst-behaved players I've seen are dealers.

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In my area, the two absolutely worst behaved players are dealers.

One of them is terribly abusive to the dealers, but is very honest as a player and dealer. He is also smart enough to behave absolutely excellently as a dealer.

The other is an angle-shooting, cheat anyway he can, abusive player. He is also a cheating dealer, doing whatever he can get away with to favor a very few players, mainly some relatives.

[danspartan]

It goes so far at CP that dealers have been disciplined with write-ups and possibly time-off for violating the rules while they play. The cell phone rule comes to mind. Don't remember seeing dealers sweat since it become more strongly enforced either.

[psandman]

understand that while I would like to see it not happen, showing your cards to others who have already folded is so common that few people even consider it a violation of the rules. So you confused this dealer by objecting to what is commonly accepted practice. Of course he should not have argued with you or given you grief.

[lmcclean]

I was surprised when I was in Vegas this summer and the girl sitting to my right got up, and then sat down in the dealing chair 5 minutes later. I would love to play where I deal, but it's clearly listed as a no-no by the provincial gaming commission.
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[Jimmy The Fish]

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I was surprised when I was in Vegas this summer and the girl sitting to my right got up, and then sat down in the dealing chair 5 minutes later. I would love to play where I deal, but it's clearly listed as a no-no by the provincial gaming commission.
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I'm pretty sure it's a no-no in Missouri as well. I've heard dealers at both Ameristar and Harrah's mention that they play in the other room because they can't play in their own.

[lmcclean]

One of my players told me he saw a table full of dealers, in uniform, at circus circus playing. They were just playing for the bad beat, all calling pre-flop then checking everything down. Assuming this is true, I'm shocked that a dealer would do this to his/her players and that the house would allow it.

[pig4bill]

The house doesn't care. It's not their money.

[lmcclean]

but it's bad customer service