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Old 07-11-2007, 01:58 PM
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Let me be the second to say fold preflop.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:07 PM
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i really don't get folding preflop. lol?
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:15 PM
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Put another vote in the columns that say:
Do whatever at that table preflop
Raise turn
Fold river
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:43 PM
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yikes raise that flop.
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:47 PM
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I'd fold the flop
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:50 PM
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Don't fold preflop.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:01 PM
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yikes raise that flop.

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um, no thanks?
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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lol, i love this forum [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:21 PM
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*Grunch*

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, J.
Hero calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB raises, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) T, 8, 6 (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) J (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, SB folds, Hero...

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Preflop seems standard.

Flop -- You have two overcards, and a gutshot. That is 10 outs, but of course these are all discounted. 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] can't be counted, and the PFR may have already have AA,KK, or be sharing some of your cards. It's unlikely that all your overcards are live, and the remaining 3 nines are giving you 1.5-2 outs because of the two flush board. I would put total outs at 5.75. So pot odds are 9-1 and drawing odds are 7-1. I'd peel this unless I had a strong read we were going to be raised.

Turn -- I would raise here. Partly for value against SB who is likely beat now, to protect your hand against things like AQ, which is in SB's range, and to charge a flush draw. Raising here make its 7.5-2 to call, and someone holding two hearts can't call that profitably.

River -- As played, fold. He either caught trip sixes, or a flush. I dont know what he would play like this, besides a stone bluff, that dosn't have you beat. If the pot we're a couple bets bigger, I would call.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:24 PM
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*Post Grunch*

I agree with folding PF. These cards are just easily dominated, and it is hard to play a hand like this OOP against a raiser.
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