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Old 04-19-2007, 06:52 PM
SlowHabit SlowHabit is offline
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I'm half-way through the book and I need to release some steam. I'm seriously on tilt.

I used to think executives from big corporations are smart as hell. Turns out, they're dumb as [censored]. Basically, the key to success is solve one big idea, move up the corporate ladder while having good terms with the chairman/CEO, and run your show with investors' money. If you get lucky and your idea work, you're hella rich. If not and you get fired, you're just rich.

I don't know what else to say but so far, here's my analysis:

Ken Lay - Wow, I feel sorry for Houston [and America] if he was rated as one of the top businessmen. Is it ironic that he was elbow to elbow with Bush[es]?

Rebecca Mark - She must give one hell of a bj to get to where she was in the corporate world.

That is all and I will hate more once I finish the book [ie Skilling, Fastow, the Enron directors, omg ... basically almost everyone else!@#!@%!$!@]. If you think I've misunderstood the characters, please let me know. Thanks.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Slow Play Ray Slow Play Ray is offline
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Default Re: Conspiracy of Fools

i bought it recently but haven't started reading it yet. should i start now?
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:06 PM
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I don't care man people he effed, I think Skilling is amazing.

Ken Lay never cared once he thought everything was humming along.

Andy Fastow [censored] everything up for everybody and, of course, got off the easiest.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Conspiracy of Fools

I bet if our civilization dealt with these people by firing squad we wouldn't have this problem.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Conspiracy of Fools

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I bet if our civilization dealt with these people by firing squad we wouldn't have this problem.

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Some do, and they have an even bigger problem. Do you see why?
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:38 PM
The DaveR The DaveR is offline
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Default Re: Conspiracy of Fools

This news is like 20 years old. Welcome to the 80s. The only thing different now is magnitude.

If you really want to get annoyed look at your typical corporate board membership and the obv buddy-system/helpmehelpyou networks.
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:13 AM
Howard Treesong Howard Treesong is offline
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Default Re: Conspiracy of Fools

I don't think Enron reflects the attitudes that exist in the executive suites of most major corporations. I haven't read Conspiracy (just Amazoned it, in fact), but I have read The Smartest Guys in the Room.
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:59 AM
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I just finished this book. I really felt bad for Skilling and hell, even Lay. I dont think you can expect lay to run everything himself. That was pretty much Skillings job, Lay was more of a representative, like the mayor of enron town. Fastow is obviously the most to blame, as are his partners in crime. Interesting read but it gets a bit tedious towards the end.
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:07 PM
mmbt0ne mmbt0ne is offline
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If you really want to know how stupid Enron people were , google John Arnold and Richard Kinder.
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