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Old 11-18-2007, 02:02 AM
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grand unified theory aka the G-UniT

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Old 11-18-2007, 02:52 AM
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grand unified theory aka the G-UniT

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:07 PM
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PALO ALTO, Calif. — An international team of mathematicians has cracked a 120-year-old puzzle that researchers say is so complicated that its handwritten solution would cover the island of Manhattan.

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When stored in highly compressed form on a computer hard drive, the solution takes up 60 gigabytes

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did this jar with anyone else? More like one city block would be my guess.

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60GB of highly compressed TEXT is a lot of numbers and letters imo.

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60 billion letters and numbers? I have an A4 page with some scribbles on it, definitely not tightly packed, say 600 characters, 1000 characters to a square foot. 10k characters to a square metre. 1 million characters in 100 square metres. 60 billion characters in 6,000,000 square metres, or 6 square kilometres.

I guess it's closer to Manhattan-size (60 square kilometres) than I thought, but still off by an order of magnitude. If the solution was written in binary it would be pretty close to accurate.

It just seemed like too much, everybody's hard drive fits 60GB+.

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But it could be so compressed that there are 500 thousand million characters instead of 60 thousand million.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:09 PM
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PALO ALTO, Calif. — An international team of mathematicians has cracked a 120-year-old puzzle that researchers say is so complicated that its handwritten solution would cover the island of Manhattan.

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When stored in highly compressed form on a computer hard drive, the solution takes up 60 gigabytes

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did this jar with anyone else? More like one city block would be my guess.

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60GB of highly compressed TEXT is a lot of numbers and letters imo.

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60 billion letters and numbers? I have an A4 page with some scribbles on it, definitely not tightly packed, say 600 characters, 1000 characters to a square foot. 10k characters to a square metre. 1 million characters in 100 square metres. 60 billion characters in 6,000,000 square metres, or 6 square kilometres.

I guess it's closer to Manhattan-size (60 square kilometres) than I thought, but still off by an order of magnitude. If the solution was written in binary it would be pretty close to accurate.

It just seemed like too much, everybody's hard drive fits 60GB+.

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No.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:07 PM
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Weirdly, I have just finished a book about the history of mathematical symmetry. It infact has predictions by people like Feynamen saying that he wouldn't be surprised if some of the recent discoveries led to unified theories. It doesn't look to me much like this finalises anything, just that it could be a first step. I'm deeply unqualified though.

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solves the problem without resorting to exotic dimensions, string theory or exceptionally complex mathematics

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I was under the impression that the more complicated lie groups consisted of millions, billions, trillions of dimensions, or are they just the exceptions? All the simple symetry groups are already known very well anyway, it's only the higher dimension ones that aren't?


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Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory

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That sounds like a good sign to me..
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:25 PM
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Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory

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That sounds like a good sign to me..

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Sounds intellectually appealing to me, which isn't the same thing. In fact, I think it sounds seductively sidetracking.

If you want my opinion, no one is even remotely close to understanding the true nature of the universe, as nice as it would be to think otherwise.
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