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View Poll Results: Do you use check/fold when getting a hand you know you should not play for a raise?
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Collectivism : How to stop it?

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"As troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan observe Veterans Day today, they will be cheered by a supportive nation and a government that has developed an elaborate network of benefits and services to ease their transition to civilian life."

Well because it came down to benefits and I cannot do an OP on this froum for a week, I thought this was a good OP to respond to with the view of the Boston Globe about the entitlements of veterans. This is very much a form of collectivism and something that would have to be absolutely abhorrent to most most ACers as incompatible to their philosophies.

My advice is to veterans to stay well away from AC has it has no understanding of sacrifice for the nation and for liberty.

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Im pretty sure acists(could be way off here as im not that informed on the subject) believe veterans would be taken care of in the form of chairty.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Collectivism : How to stop it?

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"As troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan observe Veterans Day today, they will be cheered by a supportive nation and a government that has developed an elaborate network of benefits and services to ease their transition to civilian life."

Well because it came down to benefits and I cannot do an OP on this froum for a week, I thought this was a good OP to respond to with the view of the Boston Globe about the entitlements of veterans. This is very much a form of collectivism and something that would have to be absolutely abhorrent to most most ACers as incompatible to their philosophies.

My advice is to veterans to stay well away from AC has it has no understanding of sacrifice for the nation and for liberty.

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Im pretty sure acists(could be way off here as im not that informed on the subject) believe veterans would be taken care of in the form of chairty.

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I think most likely they would negotiate their entire compensation package prior to taking the job.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: Collectivism : How to stop it?

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"As troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan observe Veterans Day today, they will be cheered by a supportive nation and a government that has developed an elaborate network of benefits and services to ease their transition to civilian life."

Well because it came down to benefits and I cannot do an OP on this froum for a week, I thought this was a good OP to respond to with the view of the Boston Globe about the entitlements of veterans. This is very much a form of collectivism and something that would have to be absolutely abhorrent to most most ACers as incompatible to their philosophies.

My advice is to veterans to stay well away from AC has it has no understanding of sacrifice for the nation and for liberty.

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Im pretty sure acists(could be way off here as im not that informed on the subject) believe veterans would be taken care of in the form of chairty.

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What veterans? Under AC, there is no government, and hence, no government-run military. There might very well be force specialists, but they'd be employees of firms just like any other people, and would have things like employee benefit packages, employer-matching retirement funds, etc.
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:32 PM
The once and future king The once and future king is offline
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Default Re: Collectivism : How to stop it?

Arrange a meeting with other like minded non collectivists, form an anti collectivist lobbying group/political organisation, elect a committee, then elect a chairman from the committee, then get the chairman to ratify a constitution made by the committee. Make sure all members follow constitution on pain of expulsion from organisation. LDO.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:56 PM
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Try to make it clear to everyone who doesn't agree with you what idiots they are. Resort to making fun of their grammar mistakes (online) or how stupid their clothes look (IRL) if necessary. They will eventually realize that you rule and they drool and then start agreeing with you.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:09 PM
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Try to make it clear to everyone who doesn't agree with you what idiots they are. Resort to making fun of their grammar mistakes (online) or how stupid their clothes look (IRL) if necessary. They will eventually realize that you rule and they drool and then start agreeing with you.

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This technique is surprisingly effective. Don't knock it till you've tried it.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: Collectivism : How to stop it?

This sums it up pretty well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLMTvxOaeE
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:39 AM
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"As troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan observe Veterans Day today, they will be cheered by a supportive nation and a government that has developed an elaborate network of benefits and services to ease their transition to civilian life."

Well because it came down to benefits and I cannot do an OP on this froum for a week, I thought this was a good OP to respond to with the view of the Boston Globe about the entitlements of veterans. This is very much a form of collectivism and something that would have to be absolutely abhorrent to most most ACers as incompatible to their philosophies.

My advice is to veterans to stay well away from AC has it has no understanding of sacrifice for the nation and for liberty.

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Im pretty sure acists(could be way off here as im not that informed on the subject) believe veterans would be taken care of in the form of chairty.

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If we lived in an AC nation that decided to go to war, and sent a small percentage of their population to battle to defend whatever it is the group as a whole want defended, why would those who went to war and survived to return home, with missing limbs and PTSD, have to rely on charity from those who decided to give up a nickel or two?
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