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Old 11-16-2007, 02:00 AM
derosnec derosnec is offline
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Default I Call. 50nl

villain is 87/12/.6 after 87 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($14.50)
BB ($64.60)
UTG ($50.75)
Hero ($133.25)
CO ($67.70)
Button ($124.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10.5</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($26.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $37.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $37.75.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:02 AM
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I fold unless I've seen him do things like this before.


If he were a big donk with a really high AF who obviously did stupid stuff like this with no hand a lot then I call.


His AF is .6
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:04 AM
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no draws got there. people don't play better hands like this on the turn. imo
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: I Call. 50nl

The .60 scares me.

Obv. he sucks big time but I don't see him putting that much in on a flush draw. Maybe this is a hero call but I fold. Congrats if you were right.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:05 AM
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I fold unless I've seen him do things like this before.


If he were a big donk with a really high AF who obviously did stupid stuff like this with no hand a lot then I call.


His AF is .6

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If you are playing 80+% of your hands, .6 AF is actually really high.

I fold btw.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:05 AM
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Now that I look at it again.

His bet looks like he doesn't want a call. I would make this call with history. I think its a very NH!
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:06 AM
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no draws got there. people don't play better hands like this on the turn. imo

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People don't play worse hands like this either.


I honestly have no idea what he's thinking as his play sucks no matter what 2 cards he has. But I have seen people just shove when they hit a hand. I'm not calling without more info.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:06 AM
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guys,

For reasoning behind why his AF is very misleading, I suggest this thread.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:07 AM
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I fold unless I've seen him do things like this before.


If he were a big donk with a really high AF who obviously did stupid stuff like this with no hand a lot then I call.


His AF is .6

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If you are playing 80+% of your hands, .6 AF is actually really high.

I fold btw.

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It's not that high even playing 80% of your hands.


Edit: Not high enough that it's enough to convince me he's shoving a lot of hands hero beats here anyway.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:08 AM
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looking at his stats, his turn AF is 1.33 and river is 18.00. small sample, but whatever.
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