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#11
11-14-2007, 05:50 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
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i think i really like the turn check, but cant decide. [/ QUOTE ] ive been debating the same thing for a few minutes here, I think it comes down to this: If he floats in RR pots and bets turns + if he will call with AX or Ax preflop then bet/bet/bet , I like a turn CRAI. Otherwise I like leading. I think. 
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#13
11-14-2007, 05:59 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
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ugh i hate leading the turn [/ QUOTE ] gotta say why brotha
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#14
11-14-2007, 06:09 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
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[ QUOTE ] ugh i hate leading the turn [/ QUOTE ] gotta say why brotha [/ QUOTE ] I just think the whole point of c'c'ing the flop (not saying i'd do it, but there is some merit to it) is to rep KK/QQ type hands and let villain bluff off his stack to us, which he can't really do if we lead turn (unless we donk really small). I also think he's betting bigger aces usually, so we don't really have to worry about losing value from those hands. It seems the only merit in leading the turn is for protection in case he likes taking a free card with pair+gutshot type hands.
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#15
11-14-2007, 06:10 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
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I think it comes down to this: If he floats in RR pots and bets turns [/ QUOTE ] this is dawwe we're talking about, he can make the craziest moves there is. he can have any two here.
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#16
11-14-2007, 07:46 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
I hate a turn lead; he will stack off with an ace anyway and you were repping TT-KK when you c/c flop so you may as well carry on repping that.
I like either a small blockbet on river (call a shove) or just c/r river. Shoving river is bad imo.
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#17
11-14-2007, 07:53 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
I like betting 250-350 into the pot like a tiny cute bunny. then he's going to be like "I have these claws, man! I have these freekin claws, and fangs! And here's this tiny little bunny, and I don't know what to do man!" and shove.
You obv call.
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#18
11-14-2007, 08:11 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
I don't like leading turn either, for reasons said already. Like fionn said, if we do lead turn, we've got to do it really small (like $120) so that he feels he can shove over the top. The river is semi-scary and I think we get a lot more value here by check-calling, I doubt villain even has a bluff-catcher.
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#19
11-14-2007, 08:16 AM
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Re: 10/20 2 pairs
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I like betting 250-350 into the pot like a tiny cute bunny. then he's going to be like "I have these claws, man! I have these freekin claws, and fangs! And here's this tiny little bunny, and I don't know what to do man!" and shove. You obv call. [/ QUOTE ] lol nice analogy
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