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Old 11-07-2007, 05:41 PM
nuggetz87 nuggetz87 is offline
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Default 400nl deep bluff

villain is a 20/18 who i don't really have history with. sometimes i just give up on the flop after they call oop but not this time...

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $446.50
UTG: $764.10
MP: $328
CO: $1,136.35
Hero (BTN): $713.10
SB: $213.75

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $4, <font color="red">CO raises to $18</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $62</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $44

Flop: ($134) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $103</font>, CO calls $103

Turn: ($340) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($340) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $170</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $548.10 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 400nl deep bluff

I almost think we can just call this river bet.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 400nl deep bluff

I'd rather call (or bet turn for that matter)
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: 400nl deep bluff

u trying to bluff out QQ exactly?
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:50 PM
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 400nl deep bluff

Relevant questions:

1) Does he c/r this flop with 44?
2) Does he think you'd bet the turn with AK?
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:53 PM
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FWIW I think calling and shoving are both viable and seem pretty close EV-wise; I'd opt for the former though because it is inherently less variance.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: 400nl deep bluff

it would be nice if i had a better read on his range but like i said i haven't played with him much, only 100 or 200 hands.

i think a J is really likely though (as well as underpair of course).
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:58 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: 400nl deep bluff

you can't call here, i think a call is only profitable on this board in an unraised pot

i think it's good theoretically, i mean he's got to fold a lot of pocket pairs and some Jacks... but from the action on previous streets he doesn't have a Jack
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: 400nl deep bluff

keik, you don't think he has a J ever and you also don't think we can call??

also if villain is one of you guys do you call the shove with a J?
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