uNL Hand Reading Practice

[Chicago Twister]

So far only looked at Hand 1. I think the most important thing for most people to realize is that in Hand 1 you range is extremely wide until the turn. By then it is very narrow. You have a value hand that you want to felt, so TPGK+. The interesting conclusion isn't so much exactly what your range is, but what villan's range needs to be in order to continue.

[voyamatarte]

Thanks for the big quiz. I’ve put a lot of effort into this because you put the effort of posting it here for us. I am a micro limit donk, but I saw the amazing potential of NL playing against fish, and I realized that learning NL would be more profitable than grinding out 3bb/100 at .10/.20. My first NL post, here goes:

HAND 1

77, AA, QQ, A7,A9, K7, K9
I see you going AI on the turn here with two pair or a flopped set.

HAND 2

On the flop and turn I put you on CC with a suited Ace, but by the river I see that you must have had a set by the turn, because you wouldn’t go AI against a river donk on a scare card unless you were better than top pair.

HAND 3

AK, AJ. Hero raises to make it heads up, bets an over(or two). Gets calls on flop, checks for free card on turn, hits TP and it is good over opponents Q.

HAND 4

99, TT, AQ ->(inducing a J or 3 to bet on river)

HAND 5

AA, AJ, A7, Adxd

HAND 6

88,66,A8

HAND 7

A8, K8 – Really don’t know what you are calling down with after the turn donk

HAND 8

I normally only raise big pairs PF UTG, and it doesn’t look like you have one of those here, so I am a little lost. I also don’t play 6-max (yet), so perhaps this is why.
AQ,KQ

HAND 9

QQ,JJ, and if not then I don’t understand poker.
HAND 10

A8,K8, 99,77,66

HAND 11

66,33. I thought maybe 4s5s, but the stacks aren’t deep enough to have any FE with a big combo draw here.

HAND 12

AT,A3,A5, K2,K4,K6,
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[ajmargarine]

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The interesting conclusion isn't so much exactly what your range is, but what villan's range needs to be in order to continue.

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Well, we have to put villain on a range, which is what I did on the table. After I put him on a range, I chose to continue with the aggression. So, in a way you have to put him on a range to get my range.


AND,

I just want to say to everyone so far, there are really some awesome responses in this thread. Seriously.

[Chomp]

Grunch (although there look to be some great posts).

Hero:

1. One of the sets
2. A5
3. As baby flushes surely bet turn, this must be AQ or AK, maybe with the Ah
4. AK/KT/KJ
5. JJJ
6. 78(dd?) or maybe a bluff
7. 99/TT/A8
8. 66-99
9. QJhh
10. T8
11. AK/set
12. 44

Villains:

They all have TP2K type trash with maybe a few coolers in there for hero - I think in most instances hero hits better than TP on the type of painty boards that entice average unknowns' into overvaluing weak hands. Hence hero's aggression when he senses value.

[matrix]

*grunch*
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Hand 1

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opens from button and c/bets flop. = ATC

turn is interesting - villain prolly has a TPTK type hand which you no doubt are WA of - or has made 2 pair with 79s and was floating or 2pairs his Axs or has TP+nfd.

AJ's range is AQ flopped top2, Axs nfd+pair/2pair or a set. Less likely but possibles include JTcc JThh or some combo draw - we can rule out 1pair hands and 79s unless Hero thinks villain will stack off with TP. Id guess top2/set.

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Hand 2

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AJ flats it IP after CO open. I'd start weighting the range to sc's Axs maybe AJ or a pp. Something speculative with good implieds.

Raiser checks the flop AJ bets into 3 players so has a little something here. Turn, villain check calls a PSB - he's a donk chasing a draw or has AQ/AK. AJ probably has 68 for the nut straight here, diamond flush draw with a sc maybe with a gs as well or flopped Aces up with his Axs. AK is a possibility but not a likely one.

River no change in villain he has TPGK 2pair set in that order of likelyhood and was waiting for the flush to miss. AJ drags the pot with a straight.

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Hand 3

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AJ raises from LP over a limper, and CB's a wet flop for ~pot = almost ATC.

Turn brings teh frush and it's checked through. No [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s for AJ. Looks like AQ KQ QJ, maybe QTs a TP type hand. Could be 78s.

Villain almost pots the river after AJ shows "weakness" villain has teh frush or a TP hand or is bluffing - I think AJ lost this pot with his KQ to a flush or goofy 2pair.

3 hands is good for me right now - will look at more later.

[bozzer]

hand 3

villain range something like {A3,A8,87,33,88,77,QT-QA, suited heart connectors} and anything weak he decides to turn into a bluff. i think hero has {AQ,A3,A8,AK} pretty much here. sets too if aj likes to check 3flush turns behind with them (i generally don't)

hand 4

{AK,AhJh,KT sometimes, any random hearts that might be in yr pf range, but there aren't many}

hand 5

{77,AA,JJ,AJ,KdQd}

hand 6

{79,8T,86,8xd,other diamond combo draw stuff,maybe 66}

hand 7

{77,A8,K8,98,T8,overpairs}

hand 8

{AT,KT, JT (if in pf range), maybe 77-99}

hand 9

{AA,QQ,KK,JJ,66,55,AhKh?,AhQh} quite a tough spot with AQ and AhJh.

[BrunoThePug]

Hand 1: AQ+

Hand 2: 44,55,77

Hand 3: AJ, AK, KQ

Hand 4: 66-TT

Hand 5: AK, AQ, AJ, KQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hand 6: combo-draw, two-pair

Hand 7: 99,TT,JJ

Hand 8: 33,44,Axs,KQs

Hand 9: AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hand 10: 55-99

Hand 11: KQo, 33, 66, JT[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hand 12: AK, KQ

Some explanations:

On the hands where Hero raises pre-flop, c-bets 2/3 or less and checks the turn I assume hero has overcards and missed the flop and was making standard c-bet.

On the hands where hero raises pre-flop, c-bets 2/3 or more and then bets 2/3 or more on the turn I assume hero has a big hand like a large overpair or set.

Because my ability to find value is certain situations isn't great, and the fact that I probably play kinda weak-tight, I might be over estimate hero's strength based on his turn and river bet sizing/action.

[voyamatarte]

Bump

[eddieP]

1) A7s, AQ, 77
2) 34s, 36s, 33, A4s
3) AQ, AK, AJ, AT, A9s
4) SC, 33, KQs
5) 77,JJ, AJs, AK,AQ
6) 79s, T8s
7) A8s, 22, 55, 88, 34s, 79s
8) 66-99, T9s
9) QQ, 55, 66, AQs
10) 88, A8s
11) 66,33, QKs
12) AT, KT, AK, KQ, KJ

Did these in class [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[ICMoney]

Thanks man. Will get on these after my session.