Tough Spot in the 1k with a pair + a monster draw

[Eagles]

So far I've been playing pretty tight, haven't made many moves etc.
Villain has been playing very aggro 3betting a lot one hand he 3bet the pfr with 34s and showed down his pair of 3s which beat the other guys Ace high. That said most of the time he has shown down a hand he has had it and despite his agression he isn't an idiot. Seems like a pretty solid player.

Blinds are 100/200 I have 9.6k he has 9.1k

Folded to me in the SB I make it 600 with AdTd he calls.(This could be a very wide range of hands)

Flop is Qd As 4s (1200)

I bet 800 he calls

Turn is the Jd Pot is (2800)

My line?

[Todd Terry]

I think you can do whatever here, as long as you don't fold -- bet/call, CRAI if he seems like the type to bet if you slow down in the hand. I think I like betting a little better, because it's possible he's on a spade flush draw and checks behind, but if he has anything other than a spade flush draw, he's probably not checking behind on this board.

[DJA]

If he is aggressive, he can't have AK, AQ, AJ, AT, or 44 IMO he would 3 bet these hands all day. He may even 3 bet the QJ... He may have AA or QQ and been playing tricky, but this is unlikely. He is giving enough action, he doesn't have to trap.

If you are losing, it would probably be to 1 of the following hands:
QJ
A4
Q4
J4
KT

I would think I am likely ahead here, so what does he have. My bet is weak A, weak Q or flush draw.

.5 to 1.0 pot sized bet on the turn.

[Eagles]

FWIW my initial turn thought is check and call.

[Pudge714]

Does villain seem like crazy lag or smart lag?
Big difference. I think I like c/c. This a decent flop for him to float and he isn't going to call crais with that many worse hands and will never fold better. There aren't any bad rivers really.

[checkcall]

1600

[Eagles]

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Does villain seem like crazy lag or smart lag?
Big difference. I think I like c/c. This a decent flop for him to float and he isn't going to call crais with that many worse hands and will never fold better. There aren't any bad rivers really.

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More like a smart lag... when he had 34s he flopped bottom pair and had a psb left but just checked it down.. I would except a lagtard to just shove flop. Like I don't think stuff like J4 and Q4 are in his range pf. For better hands in his range it would prob be like any two pair with an ace but discount AQ and AJ. AA and QQ are very unlikely given how wide he's 3bet I don't think he's stupid enough to call once he set up his image.

[luckychewy]

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Does villain seem like crazy lag or smart lag?
Big difference. I think I like c/c. This a decent flop for him to float and he isn't going to call crais with that many worse hands and will never fold better. There aren't any bad rivers really.

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More like a smart lag... when he had 34s he flopped bottom pair and had a psb left but just checked it down.. I would except a lagtard to just shove flop. Like I don't think stuff like J4 and Q4 are in his range pf. For better hands in his range it would prob be like any two pair with an ace but discount AQ and AJ. AA and QQ are very unlikely given how wide he's 3bet I don't think he's stupid enough to call once he set up his image.

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this implies when he 3-bet the 34s he would be getting 2:1 to call a shove pf. seems like he's not that good(?).

i think c/c is good.

[zizazziza]

i like c/c as well on turn. There are not many river cards that you will not be at least c/c here. ALso, if he bets 1600+ then you will ~PSB left on river. So I like the play.

[dmk]

i typically c/c turn because villian almost always thinks you're giving up

then on the river i either c/c or c/r or bet depending on what comes out