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Old 10-14-2007, 02:26 AM
d2themfi d2themfi is offline
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Default KK 200bb deep facing a 4bet preflop

So just wondering hows the best way to handle this. Villain is yabastid on ftp. runs about 20/15, I havent been out of line and should be at around 19/16. Is it best to CC the 4bet here or is there more value in shoving?

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CO ($380)
Button ($739.50)
Hero ($824.05)
BB ($192.50)
UTG ($1324.40)
MP ($752.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $46</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $174</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: KK 200bb deep facing a 4bet preflop

make it 360, call shove
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: KK 200bb deep facing a 4bet preflop

Yeah, Sb vs button i go broke with KK, he might put you on light 3bet and 4betting as a bluff.

I think a valid line is c/r any flop ai.Obviously, if the A flops, it sucks, but u get a lot of value from QQ-JJ on low flops, cause they are commited.If you get it in preflop, u won't see JJ or even QQ for 200bb.

Make it 450, not 360 though if you 5bet.Looks exactly like AA-KK with that line and you don't him to fold JJ-QQ or AK.
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: KK 200bb deep facing a 4bet preflop

yeah i mean after the hand i was thinking and decided that any half way decent player is gonna have me crushed if we get it in here preflop, with no history and neither of us getting out of line recently
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: KK 200bb deep facing a 4bet preflop

I like call and c/r flop.
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