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Old 08-27-2007, 10:57 PM
RobBizzle RobBizzle is offline
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Default KK to turn raise

I was not sure where I was in this spot. It seems whenever I get raised on the turn I am behind. Thoughts?


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SB: $17.10
BB: $18.55
Hero (UTG): $60.60
MP: $48.95
CO: $19.90
BTN: $52.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.85</font>, BTN calls $3.85

Turn: ($11.95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $24.00</font>, Hero???
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

hi Baluga thm

fold, reload, note
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:02 PM
Kimo White Devil Kimo White Devil is offline
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

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hi Baluga thm

shove, reload, note

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Old 08-27-2007, 11:14 PM
RobBizzle RobBizzle is offline
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

If your looking at Baluga this is a fold right?

If not, could you explain why.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:46 PM
shyturtle27 shyturtle27 is offline
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

According to baluga this is a total fold. He has slowplayed a set or str8 or something. You're not ahead here often enough to make a call or raise +EV so clearly fold.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

I despise how people just blindly follow some theorem, oh balugla says this so we should fold so I should fold etc

Anyway in this case I fold
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:10 AM
toddxlogan toddxlogan is offline
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

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I despise how people just blindly follow some theorem, oh balugla says this so we should fold so I should fold etc

Anyway in this case I fold

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Would you prefer if people instead just bothered to write something like "In general, against unknown players (or unremarkable players), 1-pair hands tend to be no good when facing turn raises (especially on scary boards), and because hero will likely be faced with the ability to make an even bigger mistake on the river in this situation, a fold is generally in order in said situation." ??

(Cause I don't really mind just seeing "consider x theorem; probably a fold")

OP: fold. standard.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

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I despise how people just blindly follow some theorem, oh balugla says this so we should fold so I should fold etc

Anyway in this case I fold

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Would you prefer if people instead just bothered to write something like "In general, against unknown players (or unremarkable players), 1-pair hands tend to be no good when facing turn raises (especially on scary boards), and because hero will likely be faced with the ability to make an even bigger mistake on the river in this situation, a fold is generally in order in said situation." ??

(Cause I don't really mind just seeing "consider x theorem; probably a fold")

OP: fold. standard.

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I am not talking about people just typing it, that doesn't bother me. I am talking about the mindset behind it and how they blindly follow a theorem and say well Balugla says this so I have to fold irrespective of the situation.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

Yeh, fair enough. As always "it depends." Hah.
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: KK to turn raise

fold
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