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Old 08-26-2007, 11:59 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

villain is funkeemunkee (13/12 over 300 hands), and his flop c/r is kinda weird. Trying to figure out what line gets all 150bbs in the most profitably. 3-bet flop or call and raise/bet turn?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $197.00
BB: $102.75
UTG: $110.50
MP: $402.65
CO: $78.40
Hero (BTN): $313.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $7.00, SB folds, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $32.00</font>,
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

83 looks weaker than calling and getting ai on the turn

However, hes not one to think like that, so I may rather call and get the extra bet out of him rather than take the weaker line which a Columbo-type player might shove over as a bluff [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

i dont see any reason to raise over his flop raise. dry board, and a shove will really look like a set. you got position on him. i say let him bet the turn and shove most cards. unless the turn is also super dry, like Qd. i might slowplay another street if a card like that hit.

but yeah, call the flop. get it all in on the most turns.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

I think you need to 3-bet him here...too many cards will kill your action if he's on anything from 9's to Q's. He might be good enough to fold overpairs here, but in that case, he will be good enough to give up on the turn most of the time too.

If you want to get all 150BB in, you need more on the flop...that way, you can get him to call more easily on later streets with 1/2 to 3/4 pot sized bets.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

i call the flop and reevaluate the turn. im probably just calling there too and getting it in on the river. the pot is unmanageable for both of you already anyway
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

put me in the $85 camp.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

if you are determined to try to get it in here, then you need to raise now bc otherwise you'll have trouble getting 275 more into the middle if hes not gonna badly overplay an overpair here.

i can see an argument for just calling though and then betting amounts on future streets that you think he will call with an overpair
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

meh i probably call, I think raising folds out a ton of hands
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

i typically call w. pos
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 150bbs deep vs reg, middle set

k i decided to just call b/c of the dryness of the board. he bet kind of small on the turn, continue to slowplay, raise small to induce/induce a crying call-down or thin value push, and shoving all seemed viable.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $197.00
BB: $102.75
UTG: $110.50
MP: $402.65
CO: $78.40
Hero (BTN): $313.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $7.00, SB folds, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $32.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00

Turn: ($86) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $45.00</font>,
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