100NL: JTs UTG

Check_The_Nuts · #1 07-22-2007, 10:51 PM

Both blinds are huge fish like 40/2 and 60/2 and obviously overprotect their blinds. Table behind me seems tight and unlikely to cold call here very often. Preflop good or no?

I feel like my flop/turn line are bad but I feel like betting this flop after the mindonk may be too thin of a valuebet? Like if all the draws miss on the river and an offset 2 hits I dunno if I should call a bet from them or not.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($47.05)
CO ($311.40)
Button ($389.10)
SB ($50.50)
BB ($29.60)
Hero ($125.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $6, BB calls $5, Hero calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($21.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $1, BB calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($24.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $15, SB folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: $39.50

RUDIKULOUS · #2 07-22-2007, 11:00 PM

Id just treat the minbet as a check, make it like 17.

Check_The_Nuts · #3 07-22-2007, 11:02 PM

yeah thing is if they call I'm probably beat, but I doubt my hand has any value to begin with anyways. I'm undecided about preflop. would like to hear more on that fer sure.

uminchu · #4 07-22-2007, 11:05 PM

raise flop cuz min bet really is not a bet, but it does let you know that his min raise meant nothing

Fat Nicky · #5 07-22-2007, 11:07 PM

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I'm undecided about preflop. would like to hear more on that fer sure.

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i'm not sure what you're undecided about. pre flop is beyond standard.

flop is iffy, they're bets are so weak, you could take a raise flop/chk turn line to try to manage the pot. i don't mind just calling though, especially since we have position.

i also think i check the turn. getting c/r here would be a disaster.

Check_The_Nuts · #6 07-22-2007, 11:10 PM

I would just fold if they check/raised. They also seem aggro enough (2 and 3 AF) that they would bet most pairs on the turn to protect against the draws.

but yeah checking turn seems good once I pick up so many outs. I just hate not betting flop or turn after I hit top pair.

I assume by beyond standard you mean you play JTs a lot from UTG? I'm thinking that I play way looser than most in late position and way tighter than most in EP.

Fat Nicky · #7 07-22-2007, 11:12 PM

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you play JTs a lot from UTG?

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lol....JTs is an auto open from anywhere on a 6-max table. hell, i open 56s UTG at a lot of tables.

Check_The_Nuts · #8 07-22-2007, 11:19 PM

humm... I only open hands like KJs+/AJ+/all pairs in UTG/UTG+1 but usually steal around 30%->40%+.

Fat Nicky · #9 07-22-2007, 11:22 PM

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humm... I only open hands like KJs+/AJ+/all pairs in UTG/UTG+1 but usually steal around 30%->40%+.

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i don't think this is such a big deal. just keep in mind that observant opponents will be able to polarize your range a bit more when you raise from EP.

1gotth3nuts · #10 07-22-2007, 11:37 PM

i definately check the turn, because as stated before, it would suck to get c/r off the hand