Fold KK to a push on flop?

[Javanewt]

10-handed. Table has been very loose aggressive. No real reads on villain, but not as loose/aggressive as the rest of the table seems to be.

Hero has ~80bb; villain has ~100bb

Folded to villain on button

Villain raises to 4bb

SB folds

Hero in BB raises to 13bb K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain calls

Flop 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero bets pot

Villain is all-in

Hero?

[Mazzinger]

Fold. The raise and call on the flop looks like a PP. I think villain hit the set on the flop.

[CopTHIS]

OMFG, call in a heartbeat!

[jetsetboy]

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OMFG, call in a heartbeat!

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[GiantBuddha]

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Table has been very loose aggressive. No real reads on villain, but not as loose/aggressive as the rest of the table seems to be.

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But does he think you are? You're getting 3 to 1 here, right? I think you have more than 25% equity against his range here. Call, but expect to lose about half the time.

[D.L.M.]

id call, somtimes this doushe will have a set, but def less than half the time, so you have to call.

[pterodactyl_]

Definetly call this. Loose/aggro guy in a live game (presumably) can have any overpair here.

[moldman]

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OMFG, call in a heartbeat!

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[Javanewt]

This was online.

New question: Villain had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

If hero could see villain’s hole cards on the flop knowing that villain has approximately 17 outs (eight [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]s, two 2s, three As, four 4s), is hero still correct to call? Is this a case of getting it all in when you are ahead?

Was villain correct to push? Would villain have been correct to push knowing hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

[GiantBuddha]

Yes, yes, and yes.