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Old 01-26-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

Hey guys,

I have recently been playing a lot of PLO at Full Tilt, mostly $50 and $100. This hand came up and I wanted to get some advice on my play.

UTG has raised a lot of pots from any position and is generally weak unless the flop really hits him. I have played a few pots with Button and CO. Button is quite aggressive on the flop and CO is generally a calling station that wants to see all five cards before he folds.

I know that this is probably a "Fold Preflop" hand, but I was closing the action. Thoughts on all streets would be appreicated.

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Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $19.05
UTG+1: $56.70
CO: $13.65
Button: $40.05
SB: $17.25
Hero: $121.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10.5, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $5.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $10.5</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $11.9</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($58.1, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $58.1)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $3.6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $68.9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $26.4</font>.
Uncalled bets: $42.5 returned to Hero.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($114.5, 1 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $58.1, Sidepot 1: $10.8, Sidepot 2: $45.6)


Results:
Final pot: $114.5
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 7c 3c Ts 4s (Straight, Seven High)</font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO showed Td Jc Ac 3d (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes) </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button showed 4h Ah 9d Js (Flush, Ace High)</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed 9h 6c 5d 5h (Flush, Jack High)</font>
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

Fold to the first flop raise, only 5 nut outs and plenty of reverse implied odds. Given the way you played it (forget that you got any of your money in ahead) I prefer a fold preflop.
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

I think that the best advice for this hand is to fold it preflop to a raise.
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

I would fold preflop but play flop the same.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

If it was J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or you had position I'd probably play on further with the hand, but with that kind of multiway action you've got to be doubting how may clean outs you actually have in this pot

Preflop is as everyone says
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

1) Make a note of who the button is and their min-raise to possibly get a free turn card in position

2) you are on the low end of the straight and should find a fold here more often than a call (also because of the flush draw hurting your outs)

3) fold preflop
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Old 01-27-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

Thanks guys.. I had a feeling that was the case. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

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I would fold preflop but play flop the same.

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I'm folding to the first flop raise. Is this bad?
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: FT .25/.50 PLO BB hand

I see your point in you closing the action preflop. In Super System 2 (the O/8 section) Bobby Baldwin has a good reason to drop a lot of hands preflop - they can get you into serious trouble.

Considering the stacksizes you pretty much know that you can not push a nutflush draw out on the turn.

Possible trips and the flushdraw - I think I would manage to lay this down on the flop. The price is ~5:1, implied odds will not be huge. Even if you count in the remaining $26 from the button you are beeing laied ~7.5:1 for beeing shown 1 card. If it hits you there are tons of redraws.

Hope this makes sense from a pretty newbie omaha/poker player
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