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Old 11-30-2007, 02:24 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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kind of weird cause she has to know this line looks completely fos so if she has any read that you are even competent, one would think she'd be more inclined to take this line for value with a monster than as a bluff and there aren't too many monsters here that you beat.

really though, that's all [censored] cause you have a set and you aren't folding, there are lots of cards you don't want to see so you should really just get more money in the pot ASAP.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:14 PM
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OP: Your thinking mirrors mine on this one in that when she calls a 3bet, you're way behind effictively turning your hand into a bluff. I also kinda doubt you 3ball bluff here which makes several hands in her range quite a bit easier to play.

I call here and c/c most rivers. Seems kinda weak, but I think it gets the most value with least variance in this case.

As an aside - I believe it was Bilbo who advocates just folding small pps from the blinds against a solid button opener and I tend to agree with him. You really just don't have the implied odds imo.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:39 PM
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:47 PM
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Yeah - she's terrible. I totally flopped a set against here and she like, STACKED OFF WITH AN OVERPAIR!!!

I was like "AA no good clown" LOOOOOOOOOL
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:22 PM
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okay, so I guess I [censored] up the turn. I really dunno what'd be a good amount to 3bet to and I really see her folding to it a ton. not really sold on it either way, I guess the best argument is that I hate like 1/3 of the deck on the river and she'll probably put me in a tough spot.


Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $107.25
BTN: $200
SB: $392.85
Hero (BB): $398.10
UTG: $200
MP: $217.85

Pre-Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $44</font>, Hero calls $32

River: ($103) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $82</font>
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: set vs weird line from 2+2er

I'm probably missing something, but betting the river seems totally pointless here. c/c.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:41 PM
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Betting the river is good if you plan on snapcalling a raise.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:43 PM
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Betting the river is good if you plan on snapcalling a raise.

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yea I think I should have made it a bit smaller to let her think she had some fold equity.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:44 PM
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Betting the river is good if you plan on snapcalling a raise.

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With $150 left, I doubt Villain is doing much bluffraising. But now you have to call anyway, congrats. Seems pretty bad, really.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: set vs weird line from 2+2er

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Betting the river is good if you plan on snapcalling a raise.

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yea I think I should have made it a bit smaller to let her think she had some fold equity.

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A TAG blocking bet / b/f bet of $50 would have been good if you wanted to call a shove, IMO. I think c/c is the play here though.
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