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Old 10-03-2007, 09:31 AM
VLV VLV is offline
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Default 25NL - 2 overpair hands, line check

Villain is 28/8/1.55 over 100 hands

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $13.40
BB: $37.65
Hero (UTG): $32.75
MP: $21.80
CO: $19.75
BTN: $14.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, MP calls $0.85, CO folds, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: ($3.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $3.00

Turn: ($9.65) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.55</font>

He's got less than PZ bet left and I think I have a lot of FE equity as well as most likely the best hand.


Villain is 14/11/2 over 40 hands

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $25.75
BB: $26.60
UTG: $46.30
MP: $30.10
CO: $27.35
BTN: $10.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.60</font>, BB calls $1.60

Turn: ($5.20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, BB calls $4.00

River: ($13.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $20.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $9.15
Uncalled bet of $0.85 returned to BB

Am I good enough here enough times to call?
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2 overpair hands, line check

The first hand, well played. The other guy's stack size of around 50BB means it's perfectly appropriate to get all-in here.

The second hand, I think you were being a bit greedy in going for three streets of value against a 14/11/2. As played it's a difficult decision. I would lean towards folding because he thinks you have to call, and therefore you probably shouldn't. There was no flush draw on the flop, and I don't think a 14/11 calls your raise with QT, so I don't buy that he's hit his straight draw on the river. I think it's more likely that he flopped a set of nines or fives and just decided to let you hang yourself.

I would have check-called a reasonable bet on the river, or even checked the turn given the dry board.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2 overpair hands, line check

Hand one is fine; put him AI on turn.

Hand two if you bet the river you must call this AI as you do. However I check-call here a bit too.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2 overpair hands, line check

Well second hand I didnt really want to bet river, but he's bluffing me here so often if I check...Actually I see you point, if I check he's more than likely not betting more than pot here, and if I am behind it would end up a bit cheaper.

I dont get the the check on the turn though?
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2 overpair hands, line check

You cant get 3 streets of value from this guy imo... checking the turn probablly lets you get 2-good streets and might make him call lighter on the river.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2 overpair hands, line check

What scallop said. One approach is to get him in a position where he concludes that your flop bet was a continuation bet and that you're giving up on the turn, i.e., check the turn and then call reasonable bets from there, although you don't really want to call two large-ish bets.

Alternatively, make him think you're giving up on the river and encourage a bluff. (Which you then have to call.)
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2 overpair hands, line check

What hands beat you that you have fold equity against in the first hand?
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