Small Pot-thread - Page 2

danny8 · #11 09-19-2007, 12:02 PM

oop with this hand on this board is gonna suck badly, if you have 0 history and no reason to think hes playing back at you i just fold to the flop raise. this a perfect RIO hand, its not gonna be too hard for him to push you off your hand or he can outdraw you or he might have the best hand.

i think by calling your just gonna be c/f the turn too much to make it profitable.

dnord · #12 09-19-2007, 02:16 PM

Is this really a small pot? I see a SPR of 9.5. After all that money goes in on the flop (woo) this is a pot where 20% of the "effective stack" is in the pot. With a gutshot, I'm usually happy to check down - villain did you a big favor.

When I get home I'll try to find some unusual or dumb thing I've done in an unraised pot. I'd love to see that thread - unraised pots gone wild. I bet we have huge leaks in that area.

Dumle · #13 09-19-2007, 07:05 PM

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Is this really a small pot? I see a SPR of 9.5. After all that money goes in on the flop (woo) this is a pot where 20% of the "effective stack" is in the pot. With a gutshot, I'm usually happy to check down - villain did you a big favor.

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Maybe not. I just picked one randomly to get the discussion going.

As for the hand, I agree I should fold the flop here. I think its pretty close, though. I am good sometimes here (anyone care to make an estimate? 20%? 30%?) and when I am behind I have between 3-9 outs. There's of course also some reverse implied odds going on here, which makes it an easier fold.

I'll post another one. Chime in you too, we need to get the ball rolling!

Opponent in this one seems very loose and quite aggressive. This is only after a couple of rounds, though.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($118.89)
Button ($114.80)
Hero ($93.50)
BB ($33.66)
UTG ($67.25)
MP ($147.99)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $2, BB calls $2, UTG folds.

Turn: ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($7.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6.

Final Pot: $19.50

Dumle

dnord · #14 09-19-2007, 10:18 PM

Here's a very dumb hand. It's a great argument for just folding in unraised pots.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($48.80)
CO ($9.25)
Button ($24.15)
Hero ($23.65)
BB ($20)
UTG ($27.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75, MP calls $0.75.

Turn: ($3) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $3, BB folds, MP calls $3.

River: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7.25, MP raises to $14.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $23.50

dnord · #15 09-19-2007, 10:24 PM

Another great way to donk off 1/3 of a stack in an unraised pot:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($28)
MP ($32.35)
Button ($30.10)
Hero ($24.40)
BB ($41.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.

Turn: ($3) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $2.5, BB folds, Button calls $2.50.

River: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4.75, Button raises to $26.6, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $17.50

mackthefork · #16 09-19-2007, 10:28 PM

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Another great way to donk off 1/3 of a stack in an unraised pot:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($28)
MP ($32.35)
Button ($30.10)
Hero ($24.40)
BB ($41.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.

Turn: ($3) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $2.5, BB folds, Button calls $2.50.

River: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4.75, Button raises to $26.6, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $17.50

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Depends on your hand plus oppo.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($57.55)
MP ($50)
CO ($46.75)
Button ($57.75)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($10.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB folds, CO raises to $4.5, Hero raises to $25, CO raises to $45.5, Hero raises to $72.5, CO calls $0.75 (All-In).

Turn: ($120.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($120.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $120.25

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ad Td (two pair, aces and tens).
CO has Ac 6h (two pair, aces and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $120.25. 

Villian is 26/2.5 and 2.4 postflop.

Mack

dnord · #17 09-19-2007, 10:33 PM

Here's another hand I didn't play really well. Just folding in an unraised pot (or not getting carried away) would have been just fine.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($57.40)
Hero ($48.25)
BB ($26.75)
UTG ($16)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB folds, UTG calls $0.75.

Turn: ($2.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, UTG raises to $4.5, Hero calls $2.25.

River: ($11.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11.25