K,K in BB

[xerxesthegod]

SB is 30/20/2 and button a very loose pasive player.



PokerRoom 3/6 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

River: (11 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

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SB is 30/20/2 and button a very loose pasive player

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you have posted a lot of hands last couple of days.

if you want better responses I think you should state how many hands the sample is over and whether the stats are filtered for 2-3 handed, 4-handed, 5-handed. etc.

Just stating that this guy is 30/20/2 is completely useless


About the hand. I would 3-bet the flop trying to knock out button right there. Since you are OOP and since there are no flush draws on the board that the right play IMO.

[xerxesthegod]

Yeah that's right the reason I'm posting lots of hands is because I'm on a bad losing streak. I'm a winner at 1/2 for 3/100 over 120K hands and I used to be a winner at 3/6 for Around 1/100 over 80k hands and now I'm on a 500 losing streak at 3/6 and moved down to 1/2 ( don't ask why I don't play 2/4. Even though I'm a winner at this limit I hate 2/4 for some weird reason lol)

every time I give stats it means the sample is at least 200 hands else I write the number of hands. I'm just trying to see if there is something huge I'm doing wrong. So far it seems I'm not three betting flops enough.

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every time I give stats it means the sample is at least 200 hands else I write the number of hands. I'm just trying to see if there is something huge I'm doing wrong. So far it seems I'm not three betting flops enough.

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Unless the stats are filtered for # of players at the table they are still fairly useless.

Also. If you have more than 200 hands on a player and no notes/reads. You are not at all doing a good enough job of making notes/reads.

Stats are fine for preflop decisions and somewhat helpfull for postflop decisions. But if you dont have reads/notes and if you dont filter the stats for # of players you will loose yourself monies.

[Guy McSucker]

Listen to Oink about notes/reads. Best advice you can get.

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About the hand. I would 3-bet the flop trying to knock out button right there. Since you are OOP and since there are no flush draws on the board that the right play IMO.


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He's in position with respect to the flop check-raiser though, so I don't mind raising the turn. It's not like he's going for a turn check-raise which might result in giving a free card.

I'd usually threebet the flop here too, but I don't think the alternative is all that bad.

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He's in position with respect to the flop check-raiser though, so I don't mind raising the turn. It's not like he's going for a turn check-raise which might result in giving a free card.


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Oh yeah, missed that. Forget about the OOP argument.

But I still like waiting for the turn better when there are flush draws out there. Without possible fds its not that many draws that can call 2 bets on the flop profitably.

[Guy McSucker]

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But I still like waiting for the turn better when there are flush draws out there. Without possible fds its not that many draws that can call 2 bets on the flop profitably.


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Do you think the button is more likely to call or to fold when faced with two cold here?

[xerxesthegod]

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every time I give stats it means the sample is at least 200 hands else I write the number of hands. I'm just trying to see if there is something huge I'm doing wrong. So far it seems I'm not three betting flops enough.

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Unless the stats are filtered for # of players at the table they are still fairly useless.

Also. If you have more than 200 hands on a player and no notes/reads. You are not at all doing a good enough job of making notes/reads.

Stats are fine for preflop decisions and somewhat helpfull for postflop decisions. But if you dont have reads/notes and if you dont filter the stats for # of players you will loose yourself monies.

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Yeah that's a good point. I'm bad on this. I rarely take notes on players since I play 6-7 tables.

[xerxesthegod]

so basically how do you take notes?? I mean what format and what kind of notes exactly??

[jba]

I would 3bet the flop and go from there. I think there are a lot of worse hands that could cap you, put in some action.