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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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  #2601  
Old 11-23-2007, 09:18 AM
BHokie1 BHokie1 is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Villain is 20/16/2.1 over 300 hands. Hero has TAG image.

NL100 6max, 100BBs stacks.
3 fold
Hero raises to $3.50 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB calls
BB folds

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $6
Villain raises to $16
Hero calls $10

Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain bets $30
Hero folds

<font color="red">IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY I LOSE ALL POTS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BETTER HANDS</font>

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I think a bet/fold line would be better on the turn than a check call.

I think a set is likely to raise you on the turn, and some weaker hands may still call.

I'm not confident this is true, so others please chime in.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:33 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Villain is 20/16/2.1 over 300 hands. Hero has TAG image.

NL100 6max, 100BBs stacks.
3 fold
Hero raises to $3.50 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB calls
BB folds

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $6
Villain raises to $16
Hero calls $10

Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain bets $30
Hero folds

<font color="red">IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY I LOSE ALL POTS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BETTER HANDS</font>

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I think a bet/fold line would be better on the turn than a check call.

I think a set is likely to raise you on the turn, and some weaker hands may still call.

I'm not confident this is true, so others please chime in.

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I've got position.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:02 AM
BHokie1 BHokie1 is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Villain is 20/16/2.1 over 300 hands. Hero has TAG image.

NL100 6max, 100BBs stacks.
3 fold
Hero raises to $3.50 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB calls
BB folds

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $6
Villain raises to $16
Hero calls $10

Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain bets $30
Hero folds

<font color="red">IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY I LOSE ALL POTS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BETTER HANDS</font>

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I think a bet/fold line would be better on the turn than a check call.

I think a set is likely to raise you on the turn, and some weaker hands may still call.

I'm not confident this is true, so others please chime in.

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I've got position.

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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I don't see a lot of people taking the c/r flop, 3/4 bet on the turn line with anything less than TPTK. But 6-max is looser than Full Ring.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:11 AM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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I think Devin is right on the 77 hand.

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Me too, but I would make the raise more like 3/4 pot in this spot.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:44 PM
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i always thought the infinity thing was just some glitch that didnt mean anything

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You probably looked this up already, but aggression is % of time raising or betting divided by the % of time calling. So, inf aggression is division by zero.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:46 PM
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Villain is 20/16/2.1 over 300 hands. Hero has TAG image.

NL100 6max, 100BBs stacks.
3 fold
Hero raises to $3.50 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB calls
BB folds

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $6
Villain raises to $16
Hero calls $10

Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain bets $30
Hero folds

<font color="red">IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY I LOSE ALL POTS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BETTER HANDS</font>

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Assuming you've been raising the button lots, his range could be pretty wide here. Like any J. I'd probably call the turn. If he fires again on the river, it's a tough call but button vs. blind I probably call down.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

UTG is 53/11/1.56 and folds ~30%, calls ~60% and raises ~10% to c-bets.

CO is 66/19/5 and I cant remember his c-bet stats, but he didnt fold to much more than half of c-bets.

Do you c-bet this flop repping an A, despite their post flop looseness?

Do you just limp behind these clowns preflop, figuring to get paid off pretty well if you hit a set?


Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $68.30
MP: $119.60
CO: $96.05
Hero (BTN): $105.60
SB: $119.05
BB: $98.50

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $1, MP folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $5, CO calls $5

Flop: ($19.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Villain is 37/17/8 in only 35 hands. I dont have much of a read, but I have 3 bet him preflop before and he folded. Considering his short stack, how's my line here?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $112.30
UTG: $132.40
MP: $202.55
CO: $45
Hero (BTN): $144.20
SB: $93.65

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $8

Flop: ($23.50) 9 Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($23.50) 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36</font>
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Not that I know anything, but I am in a posting mood.

Hand one, check intending to fold. People with those stats are calling with JT and KT as well as Qs and As, I would be surprised if you get the folds you want.

Hand two is fine. I often do the check thing here trying to rep a really big hand with the raise on the turn.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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UTG is 53/11/1.56 and folds ~30%, calls ~60% and raises ~10% to c-bets.

CO is 66/19/5 and I cant remember his c-bet stats, but he didnt fold to much more than half of c-bets.

Do you c-bet this flop repping an A, despite their post flop looseness?

Do you just limp behind these clowns preflop, figuring to get paid off pretty well if you hit a set?


Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $68.30
MP: $119.60
CO: $96.05
Hero (BTN): $105.60
SB: $119.05
BB: $98.50

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $1, MP folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $5, CO calls $5

Flop: ($19.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero</font>

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Against one of them, yea. But these guys will call with any piece of the board, which includes pairs, gut shots and some times K high. So, i wouldn't c-bet into two of them.
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