*** Official Appalachian State Football 2007 Thread ***

[Arnold_O]

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I'm a bit surprised at the sentiment that this is "the greatest upset in college football history." Appalachian State has won back to back Division I-AA championships. Should Michigan have won this game comfortably? Absolutely. Is Appalachian State better many of the Division 1 patsies that most teams open the season with (and from time to time lose to)? Without a doubt.

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they're decidedly worse than every team in the Big11Ten

I don't think many of you fathom the difference in size, speed, and talent between the levels...it's huge

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not so sure about that. if you take the 10 worst Northwestern teams from the last 20 or 30 years, i bet it would be close.

[MyTurn2Raise]

no...it wouldn't

[JackWhite]

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they're decidedly worse than every team in the Big11Ten

I don't think many of you fathom the difference in size, speed, and talent between the levels...it's huge



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We may have the size, speed, and talent, but we also have Carr, DeBord, and English. That goes a long way to leveling the playing field with any D 1-AA team.

[MyTurn2Raise]

just saw Hart didn't play for a couple quarters

[MacGuyV]

Are they going to play a decent non-conf. sched. next year? Cupcakes like UM just don't prepare you for the real season.

[BowToYourSensei]

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also i love all the pics of the really sad michigan fans

as a maryland alum (yeah i know, app state probably beats us too), it reminds me of this, and makes me smile:



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[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] duke kid crying

LOLOL

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[Arnold_O]

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no...it wouldn't

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then why was app st only a 27 point dog? in recent years the big ten patsies like illinois, northwestern, and indiana have been much bigger dogs against michigan or OSU.

if you were to take this app st team and match them up against the worst team from the big ten in the last 10 years and play them 100 times -- how many would app st win and what would the point spread be?

[iggymcfly]

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I'm a bit surprised at the sentiment that this is "the greatest upset in college football history." Appalachian State has won back to back Division I-AA championships. Should Michigan have won this game comfortably? Absolutely. Is Appalachian State better many of the Division 1 patsies that most teams open the season with (and from time to time lose to)? Without a doubt.

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they're decidedly worse than every team in the Big11Ten

I don't think many of you fathom the difference in size, speed, and talent between the levels...it's huge

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is wrong. They couldn't compete week and in week out with the likes of Ohio State and Wisconsin, but they'd definitely be favored over Indiana or Northwestern on a neutral field. Again, just look at the point spread going into the game. I think that if Appalachian State played in the MAC this year, they'd be somewhere around 6-2 and competing for a conference title.

[iron81]

Hey, NU took care of business today. Insight.com Bowl or bust, baby.

[Arnold_O]

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I'm a bit surprised at the sentiment that this is "the greatest upset in college football history." Appalachian State has won back to back Division I-AA championships. Should Michigan have won this game comfortably? Absolutely. Is Appalachian State better many of the Division 1 patsies that most teams open the season with (and from time to time lose to)? Without a doubt.

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they're decidedly worse than every team in the Big11Ten

I don't think many of you fathom the difference in size, speed, and talent between the levels...it's huge

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i think you're confusing Div I--AA with Div III

appalachian state is better than a lot of Div I A teams.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm

53 Appalachian State AA = 73.36 14 1 53.93( 147) 0 0 | 0 0 | 74.12 44 | 72.01 55
54 Houston A = 73.11 10 4 64.44( 100) 0 0 | 0 1 | 71.85 56 | 73.76 51
55 Alabama A = 73.10 6 7 73.69( 30) 0 2 | 1 5 | 69.24 63 | 76.94 42
56 Central Michigan A = 73.05 10 4 64.74( 97) 0 1 | 0 3 | 73.55 47 | 71.94 57
57 North Dakota State AA = 71.81 10 1 56.03( 138) 0 0 | 0 0 | 73.28 48 | 69.82 64
58 Nevada A = 71.62 8 5 65.11( 94) 0 1 | 0 2 | 66.80 74 | 76.75 43
59 Massachusetts AA = 71.24 13 2 56.17( 135) 0 0 | 0 0 | 73.00 49 | 69.01 71
60 Kansas State A = 70.77 7 6 71.64( 47) 0 1 | 1 3 | 70.78 60 | 70.11 63
FINAL College Football 2006 through games of 2007 January 8 Monday the BCS uses the ELO_CHESS from here
HOME ADVANTAGE= 1.94 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
61 San Jose State A = 70.70 9 4 64.03( 105) 0 1 | 0 2 | 72.24 53 | 68.65 72
62 Purdue A = 70.36 8 6 69.33( 67) 0 1 | 0 4 | 71.99 55 | 68.22 74
63 Vanderbilt A = 69.90 4 8 73.78( 29) 0 2 | 1 6 | 68.17 66 | 71.06 59
64 Kansas A = 69.42 6 6 67.42( 80) 0 0 | 0 1 | 66.52 76 | 71.91 58
65 Tulsa A = 69.37 8 5 65.77( 92) 0 0 | 0 1 | 67.78 68 | 70.37 62
66 Syracuse A = 69.00 4 8 75.86( 14) 0 2 | 0 4 | 67.73 69 | 69.65 66
67 East Carolina A = 68.88 7 6 68.08( 76) 0 1 | 0 1 | 67.68 70 | 69.46 67
68 Virginia A = 68.78 5 7 71.18( 54) 0 0 | 0 1 | 67.57 71 | 69.36 69
69 Western Michigan A = 68.69 8 5 64.12( 102) 0 0 | 0 0 | 67.38 72 | 69.38 68
70 Montana AA = 68.62 12 2 56.01( 139) 0 0 | 0 0 | 71.48 59 | 65.43 86
FINAL College Football 2006 through games of 2007 January 8 Monday the BCS uses the ELO_CHESS from here
HOME ADVANTAGE= 1.94 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
71 Youngstown State AA = 68.55 11 3 59.49( 123) 0 0 | 0 1 | 69.93 62 | 66.62 83
72 Wyoming A = 68.54 6 6 69.21( 70) 0 1 | 0 3 | 66.13 78 | 70.44 61
73 Connecticut A = 68.26 4 8 74.52( 22) 0 2 | 0 4 | 68.51 64 | 67.39 80
74 Mississippi A = 68.05 4 8 74.56( 21) 0 1 | 0 6 | 68.01 67 | 67.46 79
75 NC State A = 67.48 3 9 73.65( 31) 0 0 | 1 2 | 65.20 83 | 69.22 70
76 James Madison AA = 67.17 9 3 55.88( 143) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.10 86 | 69.81 65
77 Ohio University A = 66.83 9 5 63.68( 106) 0 0 | 0 1 | 65.31 82 | 67.76 75
78 Mississippi State A