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Old 07-26-2007, 06:20 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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hand 1#

v: 17.49/11.23/5.42 - 383 hands

0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em <font color="blue">(8 handed)</font>
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BU with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="grey">UTG+2 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="red">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="grey">2 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero caps</font>, <font color="grey">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13.4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="grey">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="grey">Hero folds</font>.

<ul type="square">fold here is weak?[/list]Final Pot: 11.7 BB


hand #2

v: 18.94/10.76/2.33 - 700 hands

0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em <font color="blue">(8 handed)</font>
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="grey">5 folds</font>, <font color="red">BU raises</font>, <font color="grey">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="red">BU caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="red">BU bets</font>, Hero calls.

<ul type="square">i have plan here to c/r turn[/list]Turn: (5.2 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">BU raises</font>, <font color="grey">Hero folds</font>.

<ul type="square">My plan miss so i donk bet cus villian raise turn only 8% times (3/40)
Donk here ore better c/call down?[/list]Final Pot: 8.2 BB
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:26 PM
wcsherry wcsherry is offline
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Default Re: KK

Hand one depends on a few things.

Have you seen your villain try to bluff any scare cards during the session ever? If he seems like a straight-forward (and judging by your stats on him it seems like this is what he is, especially with his 3-bet PF), and non-sneaky opponent, you made the correct play -- as it looks like MP3 is playing AK, AQ, or AJs like I'd play it.

Blegh. Same deal with hand 2.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:37 PM
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hand 1 is standard unless you have seen him c/r flush draws on the turn, but I'm pretty sure we're toast here.

hand 2 I don't like b/f, because we are not getting any value here, and we don't really need to rep the A here because we probably are ahead of all other hands. So let's let villain keep betting into us if he has QQ or JJ. We can also get to showdown our hand.

Buzz
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:57 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default Re: KK

i dont have any reads about villins
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:10 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
hand 1 is standard unless you have seen him c/r flush draws on the turn, but I'm pretty sure we're toast here.

Buzz

[/ QUOTE ]

Isn't that aggro factor a bit high to assume we are toast?

Also, w/ that, wouldn't an induce check be a fare option?
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:14 PM
JerBear77 JerBear77 is offline
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hand 1 is standard unless you have seen him c/r flush draws on the turn, but I'm pretty sure we're toast here.

Buzz

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Cap range here is AK minimum and all the pocket pairs above Ts (that's an approximation but pretty close).

Having said that, what are we beating that perks up when the A hits in either example?
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:16 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
hand 1 is standard unless you have seen him c/r flush draws on the turn, but I'm pretty sure we're toast here.

Buzz

[/ QUOTE ]

Cap range here is AK minimum and all the pocket pairs above Ts (that's an approximation but pretty close).

Having said that, what are we beating that perks up when the A hits in either example?

[/ QUOTE ]


A player that loves representing strength when a scare card lands LDO.
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:18 PM
JerBear77 JerBear77 is offline
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LDO? Dont know that one.

Better explanation could be let the ones your beating spew off and save money against the AK
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: KK

I wouldn't bet the turn in hand 1.

I would show down hand 2. (And I wouldn't bet the turn there either.)
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:35 PM
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GRUNCH

Hand 1 you're getting almost 12:1, and look at that guy's aggression factor! I call this and most rivers.

Hand 2 I'm not sure why you'd ever plan to wait until the turn with someone who was so aggressive pf; I'd just b/3b it. Hand plays differently from there.
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