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Old 07-20-2007, 10:53 PM
l0gician l0gician is offline
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Default QQ fold river?

First hand post ... I have no reads at all, this is about the third or so hand I have played. I am wondering if I am supposed to fold river or not?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds.

River: (13 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 15 BB

I figured the flush hit and/or the king. I guess its probably an obvious fold?
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

Yeah...I would fold this.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

call
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

Bet/3-bet flop.

River, i might fold cuz of the overcall.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

I'd call. We're probably good here more than 1 out of 15 times, right?
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

We have the cutoff beaten here like 95% of the time.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

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Bet/3-bet flop.

River, i might fold cuz of the overcall.

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What I thought I was doing was waiting for someone in later position to bet and I would then raise to supposedly make it unprofitable for the flush (and other) draws.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:19 AM
TarHeel100 TarHeel100 is offline
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

Don't check the flop. Lead the flop. You don't want to risk a board this coordinated getting checked through. If someone on your immediate left raises, then great, it just gives the field unprofitable odds to chase a gutshot.

You are probably beaten, but no way am I folding the river getting 13:1 odds. It's ok to payoff in big pots.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

Anybody else want to lead the river? It seems like b/f would be an easier decision than as shown.
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: QQ fold river?

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Anybody else want to lead the river? It seems like b/f would be an easier decision than as shown.

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Nah. The K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is in the Top 5 of Cards We Don't Want To See. Even though checking announces we're giving up, we're assed here almost all of the time, anyway.
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