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Old 11-07-2007, 12:21 AM
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I check turn. He either folds to the bet (we lose value) or he crai (and you dont even know what your going to do).

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results orientated much?

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Not at all. Just think about it. After someone c/r-es the flop then checks the turn. they either crai or c/f, no?
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:24 AM
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I check turn. He either folds to the bet (we lose value) or he crai (and you dont even know what your going to do).

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results orientated much?

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Not at all. Just think about it. After someone c/r-es the flop then checks the turn. they either crai or c/f, no?


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no
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:47 AM
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I check turn. He either folds to the bet (we lose value) or he crai (and you dont even know what your going to do).

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results orientated much?

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Not at all. Just think about it. After someone c/r-es the flop then checks the turn. they either crai or c/f, no?


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no

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Really?!?!?! I don't think I have seen someone c/c there often... they usually crai or c/f in my experience...
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: AK wtf??

for what it's worth, my experiences are similar to cbboy's. do people really c/r c/c much at all here? i don't see it
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:03 AM
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I think betting and checking the turn are actually really close but Id be inclined to bet it. After his raise tho Id fold real quick I think
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:25 AM
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We are getting almost 2-1 on a call here. Might this be Acxc often enough to be a call? This has to be a good possibility for a call because we have 9 outs against A2 and only 6 against AJ on the river...
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:27 AM
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I call, you only lose to AJ/22.

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Do you still feel this way?
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:28 AM
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The fact that the J is the flop club card really kills his semibluffing range. I'd muck it.

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could you explain this?
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:13 AM
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I can check the turn here and bet full pot on river for value. as played, I'd fold.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:49 AM
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If villian is the type to make little c/r bets with any half decent hand, and certainly with tp, then you have to take them to value-town on the turn. Otherwise, if they are half-decent and tricky (despite the gay min-raise) then I'd def check more than bet the turn. As played I guess it's a fold.
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