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#1
09-28-2007, 03:39 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
hand 1 you are getting called down by 3 pair. hand 2 is fine.
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#2
09-28-2007, 10:53 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
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honestly hand 1 is pretty bad i hate pf then i hate flop then i slightly dislike turn then i think river is pretty meh hand 2: looks ok [/ QUOTE ] Is flat calling IP the new 3-bet? A few months ago people would say 3-bet to anything when you're IP, but now 3-betting here is horrible. As a side questions, what hands would you think are ok to 3b here pre-flop? low suited connectors? Only premiums? Complete junk? I can't understand how 3betting TJs here is horrible at all, so if anybody would like to elaborate why it would be a bad play I would appreciate it a lot!
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#3
09-28-2007, 10:57 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
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[ QUOTE ] honestly hand 1 is pretty bad i hate pf then i hate flop then i slightly dislike turn then i think river is pretty meh hand 2: looks ok [/ QUOTE ] Is flat calling IP the new 3-bet? A few months ago people would say 3-bet to anything when you're IP, but now 3-betting here is horrible. As a side questions, what hands would you think are ok to 3b here pre-flop? low suited connectors? Only premiums? Complete junk? I can't understand how 3betting TJs here is horrible at all, so if anybody would like to elaborate why it would be a bad play I would appreciate it a lot! [/ QUOTE ] It depends on the type of villain.
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#4
09-28-2007, 11:00 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
plzzz it isn't bad to 3-bet JTs IP.
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#5
09-28-2007, 12:45 PM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] honestly hand 1 is pretty bad i hate pf then i hate flop then i slightly dislike turn then i think river is pretty meh hand 2: looks ok [/ QUOTE ] Is flat calling IP the new 3-bet? A few months ago people would say 3-bet to anything when you're IP, but now 3-betting here is horrible. As a side questions, what hands would you think are ok to 3b here pre-flop? low suited connectors? Only premiums? Complete junk? I can't understand how 3betting TJs here is horrible at all, so if anybody would like to elaborate why it would be a bad play I would appreciate it a lot! [/ QUOTE ] It depends on the type of villain. [/ QUOTE ] i try to mix up my calling vs 3betting with sc type hands in these spots. if i were just going to play a single hand in a vacuum i'd probably prefer to just call vs most people but 3betting gives cover for big hands.
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#6
09-28-2007, 05:12 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
they both suck more than i thought they would when i opened this thread...
one is a great way to play a big hand because youre getting called by everything under the sun... two is meh... i mean why did you decide to bluff the maniac? i think you get called by alot on the river... just make a hand and stack the guy playing 52/50... hes prob not good postflop if hes that bad pf... so hell call you too much.
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#7
09-28-2007, 06:00 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
i aint no HU player, someone liking the bluff in hand 2, could you explain it to me please? Because I don't atm, but again I'm no HU player.
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#8
09-28-2007, 06:37 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
after you float the flop in hand 2 and the turn is a club and after you fire out 300 on turn, is it a reasonable statement to say that you should be pushing this river practically all the time, regardless of which card comes
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#9
09-28-2007, 11:55 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
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two is meh... i mean why did you decide to bluff the maniac? i think you get called by alot on the river... just make a hand and stack the guy playing 52/50... hes prob not good postflop if hes that bad pf... so hell call you too much. [/ QUOTE ] This was heads up, villain was not a maniac. For what it's worth, I have even looser heads up stats, and I dont think I am a maniac. He was just a LAG HU player. Also, contrary to popular myth, the better play TO bluff is a maniac/looser type simply because their absolute hand values tend to be towards the bottom range. Also, drawing postflop conclusions about preflop numbers is really silly.
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#10
09-28-2007, 11:49 AM
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Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
i like number 1, not number 2. i think that villain is c/c'ing with 9x or TT+ a lot of the time here. i would check the turn and bet the river. getting c/r'ed here would really suck.
1 looks good because he has a pp here a lot that he'll fold. edit: i mean on hand 2 you should check the turn with the intention of bluffing river. as played i would check river.
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