NL25 Pair+GS turns trips

tw0please · #1 03-26-2007, 05:22 PM

Unknown villain. Turn call ok? Also looking for comments on river bet size. Thanks.

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10./$0.25.
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.38
CO: $32.72
Hero: $26.86
SB: $24.74
BB: $4.91

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.65, 3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $2.65, Hero raises to $7, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16.65, 2 players)
CO bets $2.5, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21.65, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $8

juanepr · #2 03-26-2007, 05:31 PM

I don't see any hands that call this bet which you beat (maybe K9). Villian has played this hand like he's drawing, and all draws whiffed. The problem I have here is that you are pot comitted with this bet (or any other reasonably sized bet) and you can't get away from a raise.

Waingro · #3 03-26-2007, 05:37 PM

You played this hand all backwards. You put in a lot of money ($7.85) pf + on the flop with very little and then, on the turn and river when you in all likelyhood have the best hand, you put in $10.5. These numbers seem off by a lot. Maybe you had your reasons for pf and flop, but you must raise the turn and then push river.

tw0please · #4 03-26-2007, 05:42 PM

Juanepr,

What drawing hands could he possibly have?

juanepr · #5 03-26-2007, 05:43 PM

I agree with Lucky. The turn is a raise, IMO.

juanepr · #6 03-26-2007, 05:45 PM

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Juanepr,

What drawing hands could he possibly have?

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Any 7 or 8.

Edit: the point is if he is NOT drawing, he has you beat almost every time.

tw0please · #7 03-26-2007, 05:51 PM

Lucky Jim,

I can see the argument for raising turn, however I can't think of a reasonable amount that doesn't leave an awkward amount of money left on the river. Raising the turn to $9 bloats the pot to $34 with $8 of effective stacks behind.

boycalledroy · #8 03-26-2007, 05:53 PM

Get it allin on the turn? It is unlikely the 6 helped his hand, if he is still drawing he can call, on the river you have either won or lost and I can't see him calling with a hand you beat.

tw0please · #9 03-26-2007, 05:56 PM

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Juanepr,

What drawing hands could he possibly have?

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Any 7 or 8.

Edit: the point is if he is NOT drawing, he has you beat almost every time.

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77, 88, and TT-QQ are also in his range by the river, and might call a river bet.

tw0please · #10 03-26-2007, 06:00 PM

Shoving seems excessive given that I still think the majority of his range is 9x and overpairs, I am not convinced that the average unknown calls with a gutter like T8 on the flop, and even if he did, why not let him bluff the river by feigning weakness by calling on the turn?