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Old 09-20-2006, 07:45 PM
Python Python is offline
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Default Nut straight against flush out of position

Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.15/$0.3
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Python is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Python raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.33SB, 7 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Python bets</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.67BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Python bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.67BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Python bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Button folds.

Results:
Final pot: 13.67BB



Flop: I've top pair with kicker out of position and a weak straight draw. The flush draw is threatening. Planning to fold, if someone reraises my raise.

Turn: Scary scare card comes. No top pair any more. Betting, because the villains are very loose.

River: Nut Straight against a possible flush. The pot is big, I bet.

Betting a 4 out nut straight draw out of position against an almost done flush may be my great error in this hand. Also, I was strongly out of position. The river bet may also be an error.

What do you think?

Edit: Repaired messed up hand posting.
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Old 09-20-2006, 07:47 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

Ummmm...I think you might want to check what hand you converted. In this hand, you flopped top 2, and turned a fh. No nut str8 here.

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Old 09-20-2006, 07:47 PM
sarsen sarsen is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

fix the conversion please. Choose 2+2 format. It looks like you have the Ace/Queen of spades and the Ace/Queen of spades comes on the flop.
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Old 09-20-2006, 07:56 PM
Zeldark Zeldark is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

Dude. Bet all the way. This hand rocks! +++EV!!! So awesome dude. Peace out dude. Value city!
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:09 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

c/f turn, 3 opps is too many.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:13 PM
Hielko Hielko is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

EASY turn fold.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:51 PM
drzen drzen is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

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Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.15/$0.3
9 players
Converter


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Are some Ongame sites spreading .15/.30 or is this just a weird converter thing? Because PR doesn't.

[ QUOTE ]
Pre-flop: (9 players) Python is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Python raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.33SB, 7 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Python bets</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh dear.

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Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.67BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Python bets</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh dear.
[ QUOTE ]
River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.67BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Python bets</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh dear.


[ QUOTE ]
Flop: I've top pair with kicker out of position and a weak straight draw. The flush draw is threatening. Planning to fold, if someone reraises my raise.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh dear.

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Turn: Scary scare card comes. No top pair any more. Betting, because the villains are very loose.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's the best reason there is for check/folding this turn. You have zero chance of making them all fold and you do not have a diamond.

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River: Nut Straight against a possible flush. The pot is big, I bet.

Betting a 4 out nut straight draw out of position against an almost done flush may be my great error in this hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

You've given us quite a few to choose from.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:11 PM
Str8Fish Str8Fish is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

oops... I misread the hand! My bad... I didn't see it was 4 to a flush. I check and reevaluate at the river.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:18 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

not betting the turn would suck, as would not folding to a raise.

i check-and-see the river.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight against flush out of position

Too many people in the hand to go past the turn on this one, IMO.
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