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Old 08-23-2006, 12:27 AM
kniper kniper is offline
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Default Would this be considered colluding?

I have been thinking about a funny scenario that happened to me in a satellite tournament on Bogdog to the 100k guaranteed:

8 players remaining, only 7 get tickets to the 100k. Blinds are 1000/2000 with a 200 (I think) ante. I am super-chip leader with 45k. There is one super-short stack with about 5k, rest of the field has between 9k and 15k.

The super shorty is 2 seats to my right, so I routinely get to see him fold before action gets to me. I start pushing every hand he folds, forcing everyone to fold no matter what their cards. Kinda mean and pointless of me, but hey...

OK, so my question is this. What if I really want to be a bastard by min raising the short stack's big blind, then folding to his all-in. There is no point in this than to piss off the other players and putting them in jeopardy. But I do not know the short stack, and have no genuine interest to see him make the 100k so I am not colluding per se. I just want to be an a-hole to the other players... let's say I just don't like them. Is this colluding? The other players would certainly think so from what they see.

If you would consider it colluding, what if I argue that my reason for doing this is to guarantee the short stack makes the 100k because I think he is a fish and can possibly double me up in that tournament. Thus I would rather eliminate one of the other stronger players in hopes they don't enter the 100k tournament. Still colluding?
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

then after doing all of that for a while, you become the supoer shorty and go out 8th.

and i would get you DQed.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

silly boy, as soon as someone were to double through me, i would be playing standard poker.

you sound like the whiney girls that were at my table
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

nah id just be the guy who tries to keep collusion off the tables
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

it's not colluding... it's just absurd.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

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it's not colluding... it's just absurd.

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Yeah. Just pop open another game/internet eye candy to distract you. Obv. you have way too much time on your hands.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:31 AM
Foucault Foucault is offline
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

45K at 1000/2000 does not equal super big stack. If one guy gets pissed off and makes a loose call of your push, you are back in the pack.

Also, congratulations on pushing around those little girls at your $10 tournament. You sound like an amazing poker player, manly man, and all around radical dude!
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

You are forgetting the circumstances. 45k is pretty super stack in a satellite tournament on the bubble when there is a player w/ 5k cause I can pretty much fold to the prize tickets. When someone doubles through me, which they did, I am at 30k+, which is still plenty to make the tickets.

Who cares that it's $10? People are still gonna get pissed off, and if I lost its more about me being an idiot after spending 3 hours playing than losing the money.

And yes I am radical.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

colluding i believe is an agreement, verbally, between two or more players to affect the outcome of the game.

In your example, there is no other colluder. it's just you in your crazy little mind.
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Old 08-23-2006, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Would this be considered colluding?

um, it takes two for collusion.

Is your entry into the tourney worth risking to hopefully place one more fish into a tourney that already has a ton of 'em?

That's your plan right?

Sounds solid to me.
Go for it! You master manipulator.
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