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Old 08-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Zero Day Zero Day is offline
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Default 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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Standard LAG game, pretty thin call downs, and not very many "rocks" on the table, but some good players.

8 handed game, I am MP, folds to me and I bump with two black aces. Small blind and big blind come along and we see a flop three ways.

Small Blind: Young TAG pro who plays well and generally doesn't get out of line. Doesn't really tilt much, but when he does tilt he recovers fairly quickly.

Big Blind: Not bad, also not good. Gets out of line plenty before the flop but seems ok after the flop. Tilts very easily and can get in the game pretty deep from time to time.

Flop: 3s,4c,5h

Small blind bets, big blind raises, I 3 bet and both go to the turn. I put small blind on a draw of some sort, open ender, or two suited over cards with a gutshot. I was pretty close the whole way about the big blind, I had the big blind on a medium pocket pair thats not 3 bet worth preflop.

Turn: 9h

Small blind checks, big blind donks, I thought raise or fold here (whats your opinion?), but did neither and just called. small blind calls. I didnt like this card because I believe this is in the Big Blinds range and also put a backdoor heart draw on the board (wasnt to worried about that).

River: Ad

small blind donks, big blind raises and I am sitting there wondering what the hell to do. Is this an obvious 3 bet, or an obvious fold?

I will respond with results after a few posts.

thanks
-nick
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

Call. You're worried about BB having 76 or SB having 22, but both can easily have other hands (99/A9 for BB, A5/A4/A3 for SB).
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

trolling crap
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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I thought raise or fold here (whats your opinion?)

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What? Why fold? 8.5:1 when any 2 gives you a straight and any A gives you a set. I'd raise here, not enough info to believe your hand is not the best yet.

River is clearly not a fold, but you could be up against a deuce so I'd just cold-call the raise.

With your thought processes I'm not sure you should be playing in a game of this size if your intention is to play for profit.
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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trolling crap

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wow. wow.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

Gotta raise this turn.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

Don't understand why you didn't raise the turn. Standard play for a guy with A9 is to call that flop and bet out that turn. Need to make him and the other guy pay for their draws.

Call the river. You may be screwed but hard to give up a set to that board and preflop action.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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trolling crap

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Both rude and ridiculous. So much so that it seems like you were trying to be offensive.
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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With your thought processes I'm not sure you should be playing in a game of this size if your intention is to play for profit.


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haakee,
What would have been your thought process? What would you have done differently and what would you have been thinking? I would like constructive yet truthful criticism here and believe or not I really appreciate it.

thanks
-Nick

by the way, small blind had 22, and big blind had 99.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:15 PM
MaverickUSC MaverickUSC is offline
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

Pop turn, muck river but this is game specific. The river play becomes much easier by raising the turn, but the way you got there you're beat way more than 8.5:1 in Arizona unless the game was playing extremely differently than the norm that I know and love.

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