High Stakes Poker thread (9/24) (Spoilers in Thread to come?)

[Hamburglar]

I overestimate the strength of the current lineup on HSP.

baxter lacks alot of fundamentals yet is probably one of the top 3 players at this table. that is how bad this table is. none of the top pros at the table are nl cash game specialist and it's easy to tell if you grind nl 4-8 hrs a day (maybe except for harmen, alot of nitty tendencies there). evaluating a bad player as a bad player is not an insult. shoving a bunch of non-existing skills that baxter processes down a nl player's throat like we couldn't tell for ourselves, now that is insulting. baxter is no uberdonk but he's not good at all.

I'm guessing all the players are solid, the exception being Safai

i don't need to guess. judging from this comment alone tells me you have absolutely no idea what the term "solid" means.

the game plays way different from what online is like. I'm not sure you can adapt with in 100 hands and be totally in tune. Dont think for a second that pots would play out the way they do online, imo there would be a totally different dynamic to them.

there are tons of 25nl games that are exactly like this going on everyday. just look for the 60% player per flop tables. the hsp money might cause more stress but the dyamic are basically the same. donk raise, you reraise, two donk calls, one has k7s, bet flop take money. yeah live is so much different. good grief they can see my face, can't wait for a decent hand in position, must play k3os, oh knoeeeeeeeeees.

[john voight]

I just cant believe how little you know about poker to make the statements you just did.

baxter lack fundamentals? how can you tell from like 5 hands he's played. He comes into pots raising pf, and rarely puts himself in bad spots PF. He also has been accessing hands post flop pretty well. I honestly dont know what fundamentals you are talking about.

why the [censored] would you compare this game to anything your experience when grinding? Your realize grinding is a whole other game? I take it you play 8 tables of NL25, and think that somehow compares to playing 1 table of a totally different game. And comparing NL25 to this game is a joke. WTF does seeing 60% have to do w/ it? Nothing. I am guessing you don't see the differences btwn the two games b/c you don't understand the game well enough.

Lastly, I dont wanna come off as a person who thinks this game is the highest level game (difficulty) in world. From railing nosebleed games, IMO the top online games (with traffic, so like 50-100, or 25-50, not Sbrugby games, those imo are totally different planet) are prolly tougher on a regular basis, however I could imagine that if you stack up a sick B&M table, it could be much tougher (hell it might even feature some of the online players).

P.S, I am sorry I insulted you w/ my other post.

[innerspace]

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there are tons of 25nl games that are exactly like this going on everyday.

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This pretty much sums up the level of analysis here. You people are pretty funny.

[ChrisV]

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Sammy said it himself that he wasn't playing with his money.

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Sammys backers must either have never seen him play NLHE or know nothing about poker. Or maybe they hate money.

[ChrisV]

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I'm so happy I play online so I don't have to listen to donks whine about crap, like Safai

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Yeah, I loled when he started yammering on about the goddamn J3 of spades that he folded and how he would have made a flush, and Negreanu tried to look interested.

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- Jennifer is so cute

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QFT

[ChrisV]

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Anyway, on to all the hate about FarharrrrrR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How the hell is it Farha's fault that the show sucked? Did he say to himself "okey im gunna play huge pots, and hopefully get air time". And then, did he go into the editing room and make sure they put his hands in?

Or maybe..... those 3 hands he played, were the only interesting ones out of the 4 hours, or whatever, they played. Maybe, ppl were all playing tight, and there was nothing to see besides some lame cbets taking it down on the flop.

Time and time again I am shocked at how naive most ppl are when it comes to stuff on T.V.

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Or, we could listen to a good player who's played him live, like Jason Strasser:

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Sammy farha is the best action I ever seen in a 200-400 game (GUY/NOAITIMA aside). He raises to 1400 70% of hands and bets the flop then usually folds if you do anything else.

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[jcl]

What is with all these ppl who think they are god's gift to poker? You watch a TV show, see some pros mess about for TV, conclude they can't beat 50NL. Fact. Simple. QED.

Regarding Baxter's AI call, everyone is balking at the fact he called 50K more. But he's calling 50K more vs essentially a random hand. Even if the random hand contains a pair (since Sammy said he'd move in with any), Mike is ahead of that range. Even if it contains an ace, A9 is an above-average ace. Moreover, 50K, when you consider the 1200 straddle is like 40bbs getting 2-1, and vs Sammy. Surely this isn't the worst call you've ever seen?

I remember there was a lot of criticism regarding Lindgren's AJs fold with TPTK v Sammy's flush draw and everyone was like 'OMG how do u fold that it's like a massive favourite v Sammy's range'. (Of course if he shoved I imagine this forum would've been full of 'OMG how do you shove Sammy obviously has JJ+'). Here we see essentially the same situation, the opposite play, yet the same criticism.

Even things like Baxter's button cold-call to his set-leading were criticised. I have no doubt that if Baxter checked his set like most 25NL'ers he would've been criticised to no end. And why would you 3-bet Sammy IP? It would expose you to a monster in the blinds, it reopens the betting for Sammy who, if he shoved, would put you in a perilous spot with A9o. Moreover, if you hit your ace, look how light you can get it in for a 150K pot. Little risk, huge rewards, but still bad poker apparently...

In short, you guys truly are nitpicky for no reason. Even if the play isn't perfect 2+2 style, isn't that a good thing? Who here would honestly prefer seeing 8 game theorists go at it?

[Bet-and-win88]

Wow, 13 pages and one good post [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Kimbell175113]

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Wow, 13 pages and one good post [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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true if you were talking about Nielsio's

[TheWorm967]

I'm not a huge fan of baxter but i snapcall that A9 against sammy, good call.