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Old 11-03-2007, 06:00 PM
PietM PietM is offline
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Default NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

Villain in this hand seemed solid (through datamining, so no reads on him), 22/18/4.5 in 3500 hands.

First of all: is it ok to call the 3bet? Villain folds to steals 80% or so.

Then I flop the NFD. Villain bets into me. What is the best line here? If I raise his bet, I can't really fold to a push I guess. Calling? Or is this an easy fold?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $56.75
BB: $51.25
UTG: $54.15
CO: $78.20
PietM (BTN): $134.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to PietM (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">PietM raises to $2</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $6.25</font>, PietM calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $9</font>, PietM ???
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:09 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

Get the money in and gamble.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:23 PM
wingchunflush wingchunflush is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

I agree with Jamougha we have 9 outs twice assuming he has AA and 6 more than that if he has JJ
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Phytopath Phytopath is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

Yeah I normally don't like to call the 3-bet OOP with AQ, but against most hands you have enough equity here to shove. Worst case is AA, then you still have quite a few outs, you also fold out AK.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:35 PM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

Shove, FE and tons of outs. AK can't call. TT-AA should at least think about it though really do not expect them to fold very much. Do the same with a set here. Should be unexploitable +EV.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:41 PM
creamfillin creamfillin is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

If he's really aggressive I may just call and shove the turn on him. Seems like the perfect spot for this type of player to 3B you with nothing and I think we might get more of his money on the turn. Raising the flop is fine too I think.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:45 PM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

Shove. Don't worry about the fact that it's an overbet, it just might convince him to fold 99 or something which is of course a huge victory. You have 12 outs almost always, 15 outs most of the time, maximize your fold equity while your pot equity is still good. Anything else without a supersolid read like he always 2barrels in 3bet pots is FPS.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:09 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Hero flops NFD in 3Bet pot

I like a flop shove here. Villains stats indicate he is a TAG and Im not sure how many tags double barrel with air. Shove the flop when your equity is the highest, if he folds you either got him to fold an overpair or he was bluffing anyway. If we shove this turn we can confidently put him on an overpair and your equity at that point is half of what it was plus your FE goes down significantly seeing has how villain would have put in alot of his stack by that point.
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