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Bottom 2 pair on wet board
First hand at table so no reads on villian..Opinions on all streets please as I felt completly lost..Villian had not played any hands before I posted BB..THe hand ranges I had him on based on limited table observation was FD,better two pair(56s),set or small over pair(77-99)..After his turn bet I discounted the FD from his range..
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG+1 ($98.50) MP1 ($54.43) MP2 ($145.72) CO ($17.10) Button ($99.29) SB ($87.36) Hero ($100) UTG ($143.71) Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks. Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $8</font>, Button calls $8, SB folds, Hero calls $4. Turn: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $15</font>, Button calls $15, Hero calls $15. River: ($73) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, MP1 bets $30.43 and is all in, Button folds, Hero ????? Final Pot: $73 |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on wet board
After button calls on the turn ahead of you, I usually muck.
Almost definitely muck on the river without a read. |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on wet board
fold the turn maybe given reads? this hand gives me a headache
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on wet board
Calling the flop is fine.
You can let these go on the turn; MP has at least a set. If you're calling the turn, I don't know why you'd muck the river; it's doubtful the 8 improved villian (unless it gave him the 6-card straight [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] ). |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on wet board
I think the best line is to call teh flop minraise and lead the turn. It does a great job of forcing your opponent to define his hand. I'd probably fold if he comes back over the top.
As played that's a nasty river situation, but I can probably find a fold. Villain's line looks an awful lot like 67 to me. |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on wet board
[ QUOTE ]
After button calls on the turn ahead of you, I usually muck. Almost definitely muck on the river without a read. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, The button calling is why I called the turn...I had him firmly on a FD a was getting about 4 to 1 odds to call..I was then hoping for a free or cheap SD to obtain a good read on villian..IMO min. raises are very telling to those players that make them.. |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on wet board
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I think the best line is to call teh flop minraise and lead the turn. It does a great job of forcing your opponent to define his hand. I'd probably fold if he comes back over the top. As played that's a nasty river situation, but I can probably find a fold. Villain's line looks an awful lot like 67 to me. [/ QUOTE ] 67 is a hand I never thought of a definate strong possibility..Do you think many villians make this turn bet with 67..His river bet made me think squarly 77(perhaps too narrow) as I doubt he would lead with a set into two players that are playings there hands like draws.. |
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