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Old 08-23-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot


this guy and me have had many conflict and i know he will be calling me down light he is very agressive too, so i know for sure he is betting turn if i check
only thing is, i was relying on him being able to fold a hand like that



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($41.95)
SB ($31.50)
BB ($23.50)
Hero ($31.75)
MP ($15.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.25</font>, MP folds, Button calls $2.25.

Turn: ($7.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $3.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $38.7</font>, Hero calls $16.50 (All-In).

River: ($64.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $64.85
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

bet the turn ..
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

im pretty sure on the turn hes letting go of even some aces, maybe even AK, if hes disciplined and calling with twp pair + draws...obv shoving with sets/straight, maybe AJ
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:44 PM
Jouster777 Jouster777 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

Looks good other than the flop bet size. If ever there's a reason for a full PSB its with a big combo draw. Turn seems fine given your read and of course you are committed.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

Bet turn or c/c, I don't think c/r makes a whole lot of sense at this point. Anyone that likes c/r want to explain why?
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

If he's that aggressive does anyone like a C/R on the flop?
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

the problem with the check raise on the turn, is that is a scare card, so when he bets, hes probably very strong since he wouldn't bet a jack and probably would just check behind with a flush/straight draw. that leaves some 2 pair hands that an ace completed, as well as soemthing like AQ, AK( no diamonds)
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

an ace will never fold here. You have FE against like...KJ, QJ, TT, 88.

This heavily depends on stats, but it's probably not too bad. I call this turn alot though.

If you're gonna raise, just shove, no point in leaving money behind.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

considering the information you gave I like a c/r on the flop here, not the turn. On the turn I'd just call that.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: 25NL OESFD against agressive idiot

i typically lead the turn. the Ace is a great scare card, you may offer yourself better odds than he would've given, etc.

after you check, i like calling his bet. he's offering nice odds, he's laggy and therefore not likely to fold to a c/r. i like c/r-ing vs. a more solid player and slightly deeper stacks.

so, i would bet the turn. given that you didn't, i would c/c his bet.
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