How many people will make more than $250,000 this year playing poker?

[Wilpro]

Betweem 1000 and 10,000

[GambleAB]

Assuming online-only and assuming this is sustainable (ie not counting people who win a big tournament or catch a month long heater and then stop playing).

You figure 5-10 tournament players.
Figure 5-10 nosebleed players.
Figure 5-10 SNG players.
Figure 5-20 people who grind out 25/50nl/pl and 1/200 limit who don't put in a ton of table hours/week but have great game selection.

The rest are going to be made up of low and mid stakes grinders, most of who fly under the radar. Estimate that most of these players have to put in between 100-150 table hours/week. More at levels like 3/6nl and 10/20 limit, less at 10/20nl and 30/60 limit. If we estimate that there are 15 tables going at any point in time, with half of those being 6-handed, that's 2700 table hours per day, so just shy of 19,000 hours a week. That's enough room for around 150, but that's impossible since then they would all be playing each other and nobody would be making any money, so if we assume that the table can only support half grinders and half fish at any time, thats about 75 per level per year. If we assume four grindable levels of nl and three of lhe, that's about 525 people. Double that for the omaha games, and you're looking at around 1,050 people.

Add in all of the other 250k/yr players above, plus a couple HU specialists and stud game specialists and I think a very rough estimation of 1,100 people would be in the ballpark. But again, that number is a rough estimate of how many 250k/yr players the economy can support, the number that it actually does is probably far less than that.

[SEABEAST]

Probably more than 1000, almost definitely less than 2000

[gordo16]

between 2,000 and 5,000 ftw..

[shaundeeb]

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Assuming online-only and assuming this is sustainable (ie not counting people who win a big tournament or catch a month long heater and then stop playing).

You figure 5-10 tournament players.
Figure 5-10 nosebleed players.
Figure 5-10 SNG players.
Figure 5-20 people who grind out 25/50nl/pl and 1/200 limit who don't put in a ton of table hours/week but have great game selection.

The rest are going to be made up of low and mid stakes grinders, most of who fly under the radar. Estimate that most of these players have to put in between 100-150 table hours/week. More at levels like 3/6nl and 10/20 limit, less at 10/20nl and 30/60 limit. If we estimate that there are 15 tables going at any point in time, with half of those being 6-handed, that's 2700 table hours per day, so just shy of 19,000 hours a week. That's enough room for around 150, but that's impossible since then they would all be playing each other and nobody would be making any money, so if we assume that the table can only support half grinders and half fish at any time, thats about 75 per level per year. If we assume four grindable levels of nl and three of lhe, that's about 525 people. Double that for the omaha games, and you're looking at around 1,050 people.

Add in all of the other 250k/yr players above, plus a couple HU specialists and stud game specialists and I think a very rough estimation of 1,100 people would be in the ballpark. But again, that number is a rough estimate of how many 250k/yr players the economy can support, the number that it actually does is probably far less than that.

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lol at only 5-10 tourney players go back to 10/20 lhe 4tabling sir.

[markksman]

Poker players never lose, so I think everyone.

Short of that, not many. There are about a bazillion easier ways to make money besides playing poker.

[Dave_K]

Basically any 4+PTbb/100 player from 2/4NL and up is going to make $250K+ per year. I would say around 2,000 players total (including tournaments and all other games).

[Abbaddabba]

i can only speak for the limit side of things.

there are tons of people who have the hourly rate to make 250k, but just wont end up putting in the necessary hands. im not even talking about unreasonable 50 hour work weeks. even 30 solid hours of 4-6 tabling is something that becomes a huge drag. i could have kept pace for 250k if i was pushing in 50k hands a month, but somewhere along the line, 50k hands turned into 40k, which turned into 30k.


it's very possible to do it at the lower midstakes, but is unlikely to happen unless you're extremely dedicated and very hard working. i cant see the number exceeding 250 (for limit hold em).

[adan2401]

sp the 9% of ppl who think 5000+, think between them they are goin to be winning 1.25 billion dollars off players? (correct me if this is monkey math). i dont see that happening imo

[nevadaJACK]

Discussion from 2 months ago about how many online cash game players will top $1 Million

Consensus was < 50.