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Old 11-24-2007, 11:46 AM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default TPTK facing heavy resistance

Villain runs at 16/16/10. I hit call by accident pf so thats whatever.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($101.10)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($50)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($98.70)</font>
UTG ($39.35)
MP ($64.70)
CO ($33)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.25</font>, Hero calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($6.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $33</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero....
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: TPTK facing heavy resistance

Raising preflop makes it so much easier to play imo.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: TPTK facing heavy resistance

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I hit call by accident pf so thats whatever.

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Old 11-24-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: TPTK facing heavy resistance

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Raising preflop makes it so much easier to play imo.

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I hit call by accident pf so thats whatever.

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Given that this is the way the hand played out, I would fold. Your raise would show significant strength to me if I was villain. I wouldn't make this re-raise unless I could beat or tie AK or had a bad-ass draw. A 16/16/10, I would expect to play similar to my thought process, except he might be more prone to fighting harder for a pot when shown he is beat. He would know his re-raise is a bluff and I don't expect villain to be out of line enough for us to be profitable. I fold.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: TPTK facing heavy resistance

Well he is very aggro so if he has a draw he is probably pushing that just like he is pushing AK.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:16 PM
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my reaction is to call with TPTK. But if you look at the board and what he could be pushing so hard with he could have K-J, K-Q, a set or AA.
You only have one of those four holdings beat. Doubt he makes this move on a draw or TT, Q-J or K-rag
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:17 PM
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His AF is 10!, why wouldnt he do this with a draw or KQ?
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:19 PM
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yes he def could make that move KQ
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:37 PM
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yes he def could make that move KQ

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A decent villain would have to realize that he would be making a play that would fold out any weaker hands, and stack himself against all the hands that crush him. Why do we assume that villain is this stupid?

I would not think KQ is a large part of villain's range till I saw this particular villain make a major mistake.

If we had an image that was wild, over aggro, or something of that nature then maybe. But, I need a reason to put my stack in against this show of strength and so far, I dont have that reason.
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