Redargo puts me in a sick spot

[Moonshine]

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a lot of semibluffs he can haveor he could have waited for the turn for a "safe" card with ahand liek AJ

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ban from HSNL plz


would he play a hand like flopped pair, turned straight/flush draw like this?

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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you don't beat anything

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[MYNAMEIZGREG]

I agree with a fold, but, I get the feeling that in a week the answer will be changed to call.

[auralex14]

for those saying the hero can't beat anything why cant the villain have a pair and picked up an oesd on the turn?

[Jay_Kris]

seriously, this is an instacall vs argoe.

[TheWorstPlayer]

i agree with greg. it's definitely a fold - but it seems like in a week it will be a call. he's a super nit but does seem to be opening up his game somewhat recently.

[KRANTZ]

you would never fold hardkare

recallme, you're like a 12/8 nit right? do you ever bluff this turn? he prob doesn't think you're folding

[FiSheYe]

Uh this is a tough spot without a read.
I mean we can come up with ranges and scenarios for thin calls or clear folds.
I mean it's obvious he is not doing this with a hand like TT+ neither do I see a hand like AJ here all too often.
Your hand could very well be an Overpair or better so why would he call the flop and make a move on the turn?
Imho there aren't many combodraws that he would call on the flop and then semi bluff on the turn.
On the other hand I don't see him here with 66 or 88 calling on the flop all too often either..
Kinda hard to figure out what he could have.
J9s makes sense, 57s, 99 (88, 66) maybe some sort of midpair call that turned into a combodraw...
To be honest when I cannot come up with a correct decision to either call or fold I doubt it makes a big difference.
Imho if he is loose agressive against you, there is a special history/background or he is steaming I would call.
If he is rather tight postflop and you haven't perceived him as one doing weird flop floats or reckless turn bluffs/overplaying his hands, he perceives you as nitty and not able to fold 2pairs (insert Villain read) then I tend to fold.
The interesting question is, against somebody you don't have a read on (first orbit, new site, agressive 10/20 play), what is the optimal line there?
Don't think you can do much wrong by either calling or folding.

Really interested to see what the good regs say.

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

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i agree with greg. it's definitely a fold - but it seems like in a week it will be a call. he's a super nit but does seem to be opening up his game somewhat recently.

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I was thinking it would be because all these HSNL posts are like fold 2 pr fold 3rd nuts he's a nit and he would have to start bluffing!

[king_of_drafts]

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i agree with greg. it's definitely a fold - but it seems like in a week it will be a call. he's a super nit but does seem to be opening up his game somewhat recently.

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red is not a nit