Two river decisions against limping idiots

BrassMonkey · #1 10-19-2007, 04:56 AM

Villian is open-limping donkeydeuce with whom I have few hands. What's the river play here, call or three-ball?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.

River: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero ?

Villian limps almost all of his hands and is passive post-flop - he's 35/2/.5. Again, call or three ball?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 4 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (2.16 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (4.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero ?

Robin Foolz · #2 10-19-2007, 05:10 AM

hand1: put him on a range of hands, don't narrow his range to a single hand. 3 bet.

hand2: lol. villain got owned by slowplaying his trip 4s or AA. 3 bet.

yourface · #3 10-20-2007, 03:36 PM

without doing any kind of stoving I think that hand 1 you should just call. sooo many straights came in, and you can't totally discount a turned straight either. it would help if we knew whether villain would raise a bare J on the river here

2 is an instasnap3betshipthecheddar

istewart · #4 10-20-2007, 03:40 PM

yf,

I don't know what you mean by so many straights. T7/75 were already there (so discount) so I'm only seeing QT.

yourface · #5 10-20-2007, 03:44 PM

yea my bad

even if he never slowplays a turned straight we still don't have 66% equity vs rivered 2pairs and QT

Board: 2c 6c 9d 8s Js

Hand 0: 58.974% { 9c9h }
Hand 1: 41.026% { QTs, J9s-J8s, J6s, J2s, QTo, J9o-J8o, J6o }

BubbleMint · #6 10-20-2007, 08:28 PM

Hand 1, given that he is passive I call.

Hand 2 is an easy 3 bet.