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Old 07-21-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Final table of 30r w/ qq facing a min 3 bet

Anyway to get away? Big blind is 5k, so I have 12 bb in the bb. EP raiser, but still could be a wide range, and a min 3 bet to 30k by the mp.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises 62374 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
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Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot:
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: Final table of 30r w/ qq facing a min 3 bet

give us the stack sizes please - without that its nearly impossible to make any educated comment on this one
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: Final table of 30r w/ qq facing a min 3 bet

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give us the stack sizes please - without that its nearly impossible to make any educated comment on this one

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Indeed. However if the BB is 5K, then the starting pot must be near 8 to 9K with antes. QQ is a great hand in such a spot (with your stack size). Anyway to get away? You raised all in so I don't see how you get away. hehe, jk.

If your asking if you could fold, then we do need to know those stack sizes, how much UTG+1 raised, how much CO re-raised (obv not all-in), and any reads you have on both. Otherwise it looks like an easy push.
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Old 07-21-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Final table of 30r w/ qq facing a min 3 bet

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Anyway to get away? Big blind is 5k, so I have 12 bb in the bb.

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12x5000 =60k, obv everyone covers as it is a rebuy final table
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Old 07-21-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Final table of 30r w/ qq facing a min 3 bet

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give us the stack sizes please - without that its nearly impossible to make any educated comment on this one

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Indeed. However if the BB is 5K, then the starting pot must be near 8 to 9K with antes. QQ is a great hand in such a spot (with your stack size). Anyway to get away? You raised all in so I don't see how you get away. hehe, jk.

If your asking if you could fold, then we do need to know those stack sizes, how much UTG+1 raised, how much CO re-raised (obv not all-in), and any reads you have on both. Otherwise it looks like an easy push.

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Sorry thought this was fairly easy to figure out. Opener makes standard raise 2.5-3 bb and gets minraised, and I have 12bb, sorry seems pretty obvious. But for the mathematically
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: Final table of 30r w/ qq facing a min 3 bet

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Anyway to get away? Big blind is 5k, so I have 12 bb in the bb.

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12x5000 =60k, obv everyone covers as it is a rebuy final table

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Stack sizes are important to get a sense of what the RR means. If OR and RR are 250K deep, then ranges are way different than if they 80k each.
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: Final table of 30r w/ qq facing a min 3 bet

Whats not easy for us to figure out, is how much each player had in chips. What if CO's stack was that which should've just pushed rather than min raise? That might give more information than just that they covered you. Without any reads all I can think of is shove, because it depends on what you thought their ranges were in that spot. If they had AA or KK, then either poor timing, or you made a poor read. Otherwise, QQ looks mighty sweet, and you obv thought so too. Absent any other info, I'd do the same. =)
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