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Old 11-25-2007, 09:35 PM
McRoNiX McRoNiX is offline
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Default FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

1st session ever on FTP. Had villain as 24/18 over like 30 hands and had no other reads so was lost here. Do we just fold situations like this against unknowns and wait for better reads/spots?



Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $268.70
UTG+1: $111.55
CO: $279.80
Button: $257
SB: $342.60
Hero: $422.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $7</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $22</font>, Button calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $38</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $112</font>, Hero ??

Also what are your oppinions on 3betting an unknown oop? I can find arguments for and against, the against being spots like this, lol.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:38 PM
spivey spivey is offline
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

Obv 3 bet pf. I 3 bet a little more because we're OOP. I'm not leading this flop unless I plan on shoving over/calling a raise. But as played, I'd probably fold (reluctantly).
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

i 3bet the vast majority of the time because his opening range is so much wider than his calling a 3bet range.

getting here this way, i bet/fold 36.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

i probably fold here.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:53 PM
McRoNiX McRoNiX is offline
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

so most ppl check this flop? And if bet into..?
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

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so most ppl check this flop? And if bet into..?

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Nah I'd bet, but I'd fold to the flop raise as others have suggested.

I don't like checking here except if we're giving up unless he checks back.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:01 PM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

Shove
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:08 PM
Fletcher19 Fletcher19 is offline
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

very good spot for villain to bluff raise but this has to be a fold without reads
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

Somewhat deep this is a definitely a fold in my opinion. It's close despite being definite, and it obviously depends on opponent.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:09 PM
McRoNiX McRoNiX is offline
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Default Re: FTP 1/2 TT raised on flop

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very good spot for villain to bluff raise

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This is what I thought and hate giving up the pot but I guess oop theres nothing I can do
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