Aces in huge multiway pot, missed flop. Line check? PLO25$

illph · #1 10-01-2007, 03:56 AM

Hi Omaha Forum,

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $23.50
UTG+1: $67.08
MP1: $8.07
MP2: $7.50
Hero: $16.03
CO: $26.92
Button: $33.83
SB: $8.90
BB: $53.89

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises to $1.35, MP2 calls, Hero raises to $6.25, CO folds, Button calls, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($31.85, 5 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 is all-in $1.82, MP2 calls all-in $1.25, Hero calls, Button calls, UTG+1 raises to $40.61, Hero calls all-in $7.96, Button calls all-in $25.76.
Uncalled bets: $13.03 returned to UTG+1.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($82.8, 1 player + 4 all-in - Main pot: $38.1, Sidepot 1: $2.28, Sidepot 2: $23.31, Sidepot 3: $19.11)

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($82.8, 1 player + 4 all-in - Main pot: $38.1, Sidepot 1: $2.28, Sidepot 2: $23.31, Sidepot 3: $19.11)

Results:
Final pot: $82.8

How bad is this on the flop? I am getting something like 8 to 1 to call but my aces as outs are probably in other players' hands and that leaves me only with a backdoor flushdraw...

Elrazor · #2 10-01-2007, 05:27 AM

kind of standard i dont see how you fold the flop as you are roughly 7-1 to catch a RR flush or an ace.

the only thing i would do differently is mini-raise pre flop - there are a couple of SS's in the hand and they might decide to shove, which will enable you to come over the top of everyone with your stack

illph · #3 10-01-2007, 11:44 AM

Thanks for the reply.

When I potted it two shortstacks would have about 1$ left after a call and I was praying that they would just push that in preflop and reopen the betting.
Generally I see a lot of players calling raises preflop and nobody ever 3 bets(besides me), that's why I just potted it.

Elrazor · #4 10-01-2007, 12:20 PM

to reopen the betting tho the shorties need to be at least to be able to make a mini raise, so they would need to be able to put at least $4.90 more in the pot over and above your raise, if they are only going $1 more then thats an underaise and wont reopen the betting

illph · #5 10-01-2007, 04:25 PM

wow, really? I didn't know that. Is that rule the same with all poker sites?

jpg7n16 · #6 10-01-2007, 05:14 PM

because you got in 1/2 your stack preflop, and have huge odds, there's not much else to do except I'd just shove when it got to me.

If you were full stacked, it would be an easy call/fold IMO.

Elrazor · #7 10-01-2007, 06:14 PM

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wow, really? I didn't know that. Is that rule the same with all poker sites?

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yes i believe its standard now, i know back in the day you used to be able to make underaises on ladbrokes, but its easily exploitable so players tend(ed) to shy away from sites alowing this